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    Why not try a few simple things?

    1. passive resistance. Stop paying federal taxes, ignore federal mandates, defy federal authority.

    2. Promote & call for military intervention.. call for fulfilling the vows to 'defend the constitution from all enemies, foreign & domestic'.

    3. Extend the second point to include elected officials, & call for anyone running to make this their platform.

    Why not? They cannot imprison everyone. They cannot bully us forever. If this call gains traction, & the shock to delicate sensitivities gives way to a longing for freedom & self rule, it can happen.
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    How's it going so far?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cigar View Post
    How's it going so far?
    The left is winning. Americans are lazy & do not value the rare gift of freedom. The propaganda drive of the last century or so for progressive ideology has nearly drowned out the few voices for American liberty & freedom.
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    It could work but not likely. It will take bloodshed and another flag like the battle flag to fight under. America has become the obama and liberals new AMERIKA. The waste of human flesh promised change and he has brought it with the aid of trash from both parties.

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    .how about a zombie thread, from 7 yrs back?

    But since this year, marxist revolutionaries have openly attacked the foundations of America, and with mayors governors, congressmen, senators, celebrities and national leaders calling for open insurrection, this OP seems more relevant now, than then..
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    I was thinking of this very subject and this thread has aged well. What can an individual do? I wish I knew.

    BLM is scum but they have organized into something formidable and it's quite concerning.

    The average middle of the road citizen can't do the same because even though they may be concerned about what's going on, their bellies are full and fat. And frankly most just don't care as long as they remain that way.

    I was at pool league Thursday evening at your average tavern and announced to everyone there, both teams and some bystanders that we lost a great patriot today, Herman Cain. I was met with silence, dumb stares until someone finally said "I don't keep up on sports".

    That's what we're up against and it's damned frustrating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creepy Uncle Joe View Post
    I was thinking of this very subject and this thread has aged well. What can an individual do? I wish I knew.

    BLM is scum but they have organized into something formidable and it's quite concerning.

    The average middle of the road citizen can't do the same because even though they may be concerned about what's going on, their bellies are full and fat. And frankly most just don't care as long as they remain that way.

    I was at pool league Thursday evening at your average tavern and announced to everyone there, both teams and some bystanders that we lost a great patriot today, Herman Cain. I was met with silence, dumb stares until someone finally said "I don't keep up on sports".

    That's what we're up against and it's damned frustrating.
    As I spoke to others at work on Cain passing no one under 30 knew who I was talking about.I take that back one black guy in his early 20's called him an Uncle Tom.
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    This is the truth folks. We only have one way of rejecting these Marxist pukes. It's not going to be with guns in the streets even though that would be ok. At least not until our bellies aren't full and fat anymore.

    It's going to be at the ballot box Nov 3. If we win there we can stem the tide. If we lose it's all she wrote. This one is that important.

    Gotta get out and vote especially all you folks in swing states. In my state where 31 of the 36 counties went red last election but Portland and Eugene overruled us there isn't much hope. Have to win the swings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creepy Uncle Joe View Post
    I was thinking of this very subject and this thread has aged well. What can an individual do? I wish I knew.

    BLM is scum but they have organized into something formidable and it's quite concerning.

    The average middle of the road citizen can't do the same because even though they may be concerned about what's going on, their bellies are full and fat. And frankly most just don't care as long as they remain that way.

    I was at pool league Thursday evening at your average tavern and announced to everyone there, both teams and some bystanders that we lost a great patriot today, Herman Cain. I was met with silence, dumb stares until someone finally said "I don't keep up on sports".

    That's what we're up against and it's damned frustrating.
    It is. Americans have sold their birthright for a mess of pottage. As long as they have comfort and ease, they will passively let their freedoms be curtailed, by those promising goodies and free stuff.

    Unfortunately the time for passivity and involvement are over. We either must become proactive Americans, and defend the Constitution from ALL enemies, or we become complicit with those who destroy.

    Nothing has really changed, in the battle for American liberty, just the players.

    Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death! ~Patrick Henry

    "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." ~Samuel Adams

    Do we resist those who are hell bent on destruction and rebellion, or do we passively let freedom die, amidst thunderous applause?

    Liberty or death. That is the American Way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by usfan View Post
    We hold these truths to be self-evident:
    1. That all men are created equal,
    2. That they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,
    3. That among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
    4. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed
    5. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government.

    America has become corrupted. It is long overdue for the citizens of America to retake their country. The government we have has NOT done it's prime directive, to secure our rights, but has been corrupted by greedy, self seeking opportunists. They are NOT operating with the consent of the governed, but are usurpers, seizing power & ignoring the constitution. This govt has failed in it's most basic duty to protect the freedoms & property of the citizens. We need to alter or abolish it.

    It is time to retake America.

    1. Wars & meddling throughout the world. Instead of extending a hand of friendship, out govt bites the hands of other world citizens. They bite ours too, & we feed them. Our domestic problems are too severe for us to be meddling in other nation's affairs. We are on the verge of collapse, & civil unrest grows. Politicians waste the producers' labors supporting oppressive dictators & corporate business interests. This should stop.
    2. Corrupt & racist redistribution policies. The welfare state has been a dismal failure, & has only institutionalized poverty. It is filled with fraud & encourages dependency. It does not help society, but ruins it, promoting crime & social dysfunction. Our own govt has convinced a large section of the electorate that they can provide something for nothing. They are scammers, promising easy living for votes. They tear down the productive elements of society, & promote dependency & an entitlement mentality. This should stop. Local govts can determine the level of safety net that is needed.
    3. Cronyism, election fraud, & govt corruption. This govt is filled with corruption. Back room deals, insider trading, extravagant govt jobs for electioneering, grants & contracts with PUBLIC money for political purposes.. this is standard procedure in our government. They have no shame, & no sense of justice or propriety. Instead of rewarding these crooks with re-election, we should tar & feather them.
    4. They pass laws & policies for working Americans that they exempt themselves from. We are being scammed. Our elected representatives work only for themselves, not for the people. They are greedy & self serving, masking their motives in duplicitous speech & smooth talk.

    It is time to retake america. Shut the govt down, & restart it under the constitution.

    At $17 trillion in debt, with continued deficit spending, the currency is nearing collapse, & the economy has no stability. The government has no concept of a productive society. It is a leech upon those who produce, & all they do is take. It is time for the producers in america to remind the govt leeches that they work for us. They are not entitled lords, granting us rights & privileges to live in some utopia they create. They have nothing without us, & should be frugal, responsible stewards of the public trust. But instead, they act like entitled celebrities. Govt workers & our elected officials spend lavishly, tossing our money around like parade queens throwing candy. You have forgotten your place. You are servants, not lords. You are not the solution, you are the problem.

    It is past time to retake america. De-fund the government, cut all departments, & begin anew.

    Our military has taken an oath to 'Defend the constitution of the United States from all enemies, foreign & domestic'. It is time to fulfill your vows. Enemies have overrun the country, & are violating the constitution constantly. Do not oppose those who want to retake america, but help them. I call on law enforcement & the military to not be an arm of oppression, but serve the people as freedom providers. Promote justice & freedom.
    Stop engaging in foreign aggression. Go on strike for this blatant disregard for the constitution in police actions that have no bearing on our national security. From Generals to privates, use your head & defend the constitution, not some politician's dreams of military glory or secret corporate agenda. Refuse to deploy to foreign lands. We are not at war. Stop enabling politician's military meddling. Your vow is to the constitution, not a hierarchy or corporate structure. Defend the constitution, & oppose those who oppose it.
    State & local police should continue upholding the law & serving justice. If a revolution for America grows, find yourself on the side of the people, rather than the oppressors. Support the constitution, not those who trample it. Refuse to arrest people exercising their rights. Think. Don't be a pawn of the oppressors. Join the people in opposing the anti-constitutionalists. Be a force for freedom in america.

    It is time to retake America. We need & are ready for action & reform.

    1. Stop paying federal taxes. Send them an IOU, or put the money in escrow. Refuse to support those who do not abide by the constitution. Businesses & individuals can make a powerful statement by refusing to pay for the govt that is dismantling america. The best way to cut govt is to cut their money supply. They are mismanaging the public treasury, & we should take away the checkbook.
    2. Bankers, if you want to be on the side of freedom & those who will win, do not support the seizing of assets by the govt. Ignore the irs. Count on local police & the citizens to back you.
    3. Govt workers. See the handwriting on the wall. The current level of govt is unsustainable. Don't be a leech, but fulfill your duty as a public servant. The massive bureaucracy needs dismantled, as there are too many dependents in govt for the citizens to support. Be prepared. The gravy train is coming to a stop.
    4. Elected officials, if there are any among you who are loyal to the constitution & sincerely wish to serve the public interests, use your influence to support this cause. As more & more people become disenchanted with the govt, do not punish them with oppressive laws, policy, & police state actions, but resist the growth of govt.. oppose the dismantling of the constitution. Be a force for real American freedom, not state centered oppression. Serve the people, not the bloated govt monstrosity.

    Americans need to unite to retake America. It is time for action.

    If this is a haphazard movement of the fringe, it will have little effect. But if millions of dedicated Americans see the problem, & resolve to fix it for posterity, it can be done. We are not lawbreakers, but wish to see the foundation of law, the constitution, returned to it's place. We need selfless leaders in this cause, or America will fade to a footnote in history, rewritten by the statists who will become our lords. If we vocally, physically, & actively oppose all the state centered workings of the federal govt, we can turn things around. There can be real change & reform. It is up to us. 'We the people' have this power, no one else can do it. We need leaders from all segments of society to take a chance.. make a difference in history, not just fade to anonymity. Take a stand. Fight for freedom. It has come to us, in this generation, to decide whether to let this nation become another state centered system, or 'alter or abolish' it to serve the citizens. Will we be proactive & fight for freedom, or passively submit to the destruction of America?

    I am not a military strategist, politician, or a tactician. Violence will no doubt be used against Americans who resist the current govt. But i call on all justice providers in america to look to your deepest loyalties. You are not obligated to enforce unjust or immoral laws or policies that punish or oppress the people. Serve the people, don't oppress them. The goal here is to bring freedom & prosperity to America, not anarchy or oppression. I hope for reason & common sense to prevail, but history shows us these things do not happen without sacrifice & determination.

    I am a 12th generation American. I have built homes in America all my life. I have worked with my hands, & have helped & watched America grow. I am not an activist, nor a strategist. I am an American & an idealist. I call for my fellow Americans to come together to preserve our nation. Americans from every state, locale, race, ethnicity, & heritage... we are all Americans, & need to come together to secure our freedoms.. for ourselves & our children. We need leaders who will stand & call for this reform. It will not come easily, or without cost. We must wrest power from the rulers.. they will not relinquish it voluntarily. We must take back our rights, our property & what we have worked for. We owe it to our forefathers who built this country. We owe it to our children & grandchildren. We owe it to ourselves.

    It is time to retake America.
    The sad truth is most people don't want "America" back. Sure, they want "America". It's wealth, geography, and it's influence. That America. But not the idea of America. Not the Ideals of the independent, intrepid, individualism that our founders predicated this nation upon. Democrats, nor Republicans desire to shed the gargantuan bureaucracy that is used to control the people. The two parties are fighting only to seize control of the bureaucracy itself. Both parties have become their own semi distinct versions of authoritarian statists. And neither party has any desire to, or intention of scaling back the government, and restoring individual liberty.

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