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    You did well, Greg. My uncle was a horrible drunk. He ruined his life and the lives of some of his children. One son was a drunk just like daddy and committed suicide when he was 39. The other son has never in his life drank alcohol. Genetics is a factor but not absolute.

    Me? I got so drunk I was unconscious for three days from alcohol poisoning and when I woke up I couldn't drink. For the first time in years I got sober and saw what a mess I was and quit.

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    My foster father was a mean drunk and used to beat my foster mother. I didn't drink until I was in the Army and went on a couple of real benders while in.

    Now, all I drink is a very rare glass of wine with special meal when I'm out with my wife.
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    We've all know people who quit being drunks or junkies. And, we've all known people who didn't. The difference? Those who quit decided they had to. The others, didn't.

    It doesn't help when you have friends and family telling you it isn't your fault, it's a disease over which you have no control, and we'll help you get along.

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    There have been numerous times when my wife and I were offered pain medications that could possibly become addictive. We simply refused to take them.

    Don't dope up and you won't become an addict.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sargentodiaz View Post
    There have been numerous times when my wife and I were offered pain medications that could possibly become addictive. We simply refused to take them.

    Don't dope up and you won't become an addict.
    My doctor will not prescribe them and a main reason he is my doctor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrickt View Post
    A. Calling addiction a disease does nothing except allow addicts to avoid responsibility. I dealt with a lot of drunks who assured me that they had no responsibility for what they were doing. "It's genetic. It's a disease. It's not my fault. What can I do?"
    It is a disease.
    disease

    [dih-zeez]

    noun
    • a disordered or incorrectly functioning organ, part, structure, or system of the body resulting from the effect of genetic or developmental errors, infection, poisons, nutritional deficiency or imbalance, toxicity, or unfavorable environmental factors; illness; sickness; ailment.



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    It is in the brain. And no, it does not remove the responsibility from the addict, anymore than a diabetic is removed from the responsibility of taking their insulin, and staying away from sugary substances to keep them alive and healthy.

    Addicts have to take a specific substance to flare their disease, and do not have a medication to control it. Just like before diabetes was discovered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FirstGenCanadian View Post
    This thread is dedicated to those who are suffering, with addiction, or know someone who is. I am not doing this to promote any recovery group in particular, but to post things to allow people to understand what the addict suffers, and those who suffer along with the addict.

    I invite people to post questions, or even post successful stories, not only to educate, but maybe inspire those who need help, and to educate those who do not understand addictions.


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    To those who are in recovery. This thread is not meant to identify you. Share stories as you wish, but do not feel compelled to share or even claim your stories.




    First, I want dis spell a common myth. Addiction is never a choice, but in fact a disease. Addiction is hereditary, (not 100%) but is in the bloodline.
    Second, the addict never fully recovers. Every day is a battle to recover. From the first day of recovery to the end of their life. They can relapse anytime.
    Last and certainly not least. This information is just for understanding the disease and the recovery process, and is not meant to excuse the actions of an addict, during their addiction(s). Part of their recovery is to take responsibility.

    Great idea. I am recovering from both alcohol and tobacco as well as abstinent from most other drugs ( not caffine)so I think this page is a super idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrickt View Post
    We've all know people who quit being drunks or junkies. And, we've all known people who didn't. The difference? Those who quit decided they had to. The others, didn't.

    It doesn't help when you have friends and family telling you it isn't your fault, it's a disease over which you have no control, and we'll help you get along.
    I think you are right but there are often other similariites. Like letting go of resentments, stop blaming and admitting the need for help. As i was told "Well, your own best thinking brought you here". With here being the bottom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FirstGenCanadian View Post
    It is a disease.


    It is in the brain. And no, it does not remove the responsibility from the addict, anymore than a diabetic is removed from the responsibility of taking their insulin, and staying away from sugary substances to keep them alive and healthy.

    Addicts have to take a specific substance to flare their disease, and do not have a medication to control it. Just like before diabetes was discovered.

    Correct. When i explain the disease concept I often use the Type 2 Diabetes comparison. Something wrong with your chemistry that only really matters when you put things into your body that it cannot handle. Many people can put those things in their body and be OK, but you cannot.
    Behavior is a major component of both diseases.
    In fact our medical system is mostly about treating the ravages of behavior and lifestyle vs germs.
    Congestive Heart Failure, Coranary Artery Disease, the before mentioned Type two diabetes, COPD ( another consequence of addiction) , obseisty, Degenerative Joint disease, back pain , and others in most cases have more to do with our behavior than they do with anything else.
    In short a behavioral component does not mean a condition is not a disease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sargentodiaz View Post
    There have been numerous times when my wife and I were offered pain medications that could possibly become addictive. We simply refused to take them.

    Don't dope up and you won't become an addict.
    You cannot become a full blown opiate addict if you never take opiates, but for many it's more practical to use them when needed for mere days and as prescribed. Most are not going through major surgery or compound fractured legs w/o serious pain relief and opiates are what we have for that. The problem usually starts with longer term prescriptions/refills. I believe it may be possible to begin ana addiction based on 12 post surgical Vicodin , but I don't think it's common.
    Similarly, if both your parents were alcoholic, ever drinking is simply not worth the risk. But tell that to an 17 year old.

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