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    Quote Originally Posted by Oceander View Post
    That's certainly what Trump and Biden bring to the table; it's not what DeSantis is offering. DeSantis is offering to bring people together for the common good. Protecting our elections is for the common good; protecting little children from genital mutilation is for the common good; preventing schools from being used as political indoctrination centers is for the common good.

    Protecting the common good always entails a degree of conflict with those who seek to abuse the common good for their own ulterior purposes, like pedophiles, groomers, and munchausen-by-proxy parents, race baiters and old-school racists like Kendi, and etc.

    One cannot work to protect the common good without coming into conflict with those who would abuse the common good for their own personal ends.
    Think going all in on a War on Woke will bring people together? Yea we already seen what goes on in State Houses around the country


    A VERY significant portion of the population believe in the Woke agenda.


    The country is deeply divided. Trying to bring this population together suggest being a moderate.....trying to be all to please all moderate. DeSantis IS NO MODERATE.


    You cannot be a bulldog anti woke .....MAGA fighter.......take on a deeply rooted Leftist Fed Govt and biased DOJ without being a disrupter.


    Your comments make no sense at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freewill View Post
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    I really don't have time to barf what I have already said in this thread . Re-read the thread if you don't see how DeSantis stabbed Trump in the back . Trump turned the State red. Not DeSantis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunnysoul View Post
    I disagree with the premise that DeSantis is "running against Trump". I don't see myself voting for either man at this point in time, time will tell, but just because DeSantis, or any other Republican candidate for that matter, is running for president doesn't mean that they are running against Trump. It should always be seen as running for the office in my opinion, and competition should be welcomed in politics, just like in business.


    Quote Originally Posted by sunnysoul View Post
    That's not really what I meant. I reject the notion that running for the Republican nomination for president means that you are running as some form of opposition to Trump, as if Trump is entitled to it, and so therefore running for president means you are somehow against Trump. We have a tendency in this country right now in my opinion to want to run against something instead of for something.
    If Pres. Trump Declares that HE IS Running for Office and Later someone else pipes up and says that they themself is Running for that same Office, then YES, that person and anyone else throwing their hat into the Race for Office is Running Against Him and Hoping they can Beat Him...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BooBoo View Post
    If Pres. Trump Declares that HE IS Running for Office and Later someone else pipes up and says that they themself is Running for that same Office, then YES, that person and anyone else throwing their hat into the Race for Office is Running Against Him and Hoping they can Beat Him...
    Again though, that's not what I meant. If you apply for a job, for example, then you are not interviewing against the other candidates or making it about the other applicants, you are interviewing FOR the job that you believe you will bring the necessary experience, knowledge, passion, or any other trait to that job, along with the right mentality and personality, which helps show that you are the best fit for that job. It doesn't matter how many applicants there are for it. You are competing for a job, not against an individual. That's all i'm trying to say. If you are the second or third person to apply for the job and interview it doesn't mean you are competing against the first person that interviewed or applied, just because you apply first doesn't mean that the job is yours and that everybody else has to prove how they are better than that first applicant. It doesn't matter who applies first, it's about finding the best candidate. In the interview you don't talk about how bad the other candidates are and how their ideas for the job won't work, in politics you do unfortunately which needs to change, you talk about what YOU bring to the job and how YOUR experience is what makes you the best fit.

    Trump is not entitled to the nomination simply because he was president in the past or because he declared his candidacy first. If DeSantis is running so that Trump won't be president then that's one thing, but if he is running because he wants the job, then that's nothing personal towards anybody else in my opinion. I totally understand it's a competition to an extent, and that you are competing against others, I get that, but what I am saying is that I want a candidate that is running for something and not against someone. We need less being against things in this country and more talking about what you are for. I'm not looking forward to a political season of candidates telling me why other people are so bad while never telling me why they are good.

    I recognize that this is more of a philosophical argument, but the basic point is that you can compete for something of value against other people that also want to earn or win that item (in this case elected office) and you can do that and NOT have it be personal. People seem to think that anybody that runs for president, even if for sincere reasons, is doing it in order to be against Trump. That type of belief just strokes ego in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ty5 View Post
    but Can he win?


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    Quote Originally Posted by sunnysoul View Post
    Again though, that's not what I meant. If you apply for a job, for example, then you are not interviewing against the other candidates or making it about the other applicants, you are interviewing FOR the job that you believe you will bring the necessary experience, knowledge, passion, or any other trait to that job, along with the right mentality and personality, which helps show that you are the best fit for that job. It doesn't matter how many applicants there are for it. You are competing for a job, not against an individual. That's all i'm trying to say. If you are the second or third person to apply for the job and interview it doesn't mean you are competing against the first person that interviewed or applied, just because you apply first doesn't mean that the job is yours and that everybody else has to prove how they are better than that first applicant. It doesn't matter who applies first, it's about finding the best candidate. In the interview you don't talk about how bad the other candidates are and how their ideas for the job won't work, in politics you do unfortunately which needs to change, you talk about what YOU bring to the job and how YOUR experience is what makes you the best fit.

    Trump is not entitled to the nomination simply because he was president in the past or because he declared his candidacy first. If DeSantis is running so that Trump won't be president then that's one thing, but if he is running because he wants the job, then that's nothing personal towards anybody else in my opinion. I totally understand it's a competition to an extent, and that you are competing against others, I get that, but what I am saying is that I want a candidate that is running for something and not against someone. We need less being against things in this country and more talking about what you are for. I'm not looking forward to a political season of candidates telling me why other people are so bad while never telling me why they are good.

    I recognize that this is more of a philosophical argument, but the basic point is that you can compete for something of value against other people that also want to earn or win that item (in this case elected office) and you can do that and NOT have it be personal. People seem to think that anybody that runs for president, even if for sincere reasons, is doing it in order to be against Trump. That type of belief just strokes ego in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BooBoo View Post
    You typed it didn't You, or was it Your Alter Ego...?!?
    What are you talking about?

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    Typical...!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by liberal_hack View Post
    Perhaps DeSantis wants the GOP to win? If you think Trump stands a chance then I have land to sell to you. DC and the media have done nothing but crucify him from day one and the sheep actually believe the lies they've been told
    Not only the media, but Trump himself. If the GOP wants a chance to win the presidency they should at least present a candidate who looks like a president.

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