Russian forces capture Bakhmut after NATO media claimed they'd retreat.

[Fredledingue]

Every article and statistic I have read about so far regarding the Ukraine war has conflicting information just one click away.The news sites are almost completely useless at this point and time.

I agree. It's not possible to believe one side or another. But the informations they give are still usable if you are able to take them for what they are. Ukrinform publish a daily count of russian personel killed and equipement destroyed. NATO confirms about haf these numbers. However NATO confirms only what they can see from satellite imagary and it's far from complete. Their statement are also based from one month old observations. Whereas Ukrinform is based on daily observation. According to me, and also to some war analysts, it's relatively safe and conservative to divide by two the number published by the Ukrainian ministery of defense althought the real number could be between half and 90% of the ukrainian numbers. It's unlikely to be less than 50% biven the results on the battlefield and available pictures. The russians are not publisshing daily count of Ukrainian losses. Numbers announced by Russiam officials are grossly irrealistic, either for their owm losses or for Ukrainian losses. It doesn't mean that Ukrainian losses are small. They are of course huge and on the same order of magnitude as that of the Russians. Maybe 20% to 50% less

[Wilson2]

Complete bollox, and without a shred of evidence. On the other hand ive shown you the credentials of the company, which are impeccable.

You seem too thick to grasp that Oryx RELIES ON ITS IMPARTIALITY FOR ITS REPUTATION, FOR ITS BUSINESS!!!

WHY ON EARTH would it jepodise its WORLD WIDE TRADE for ONE conflict.

However you going on believing your fantasy, As I just stated, its the last post of yours ill ever respond to, Blocked for being an Idiot. Cant be wasting my time talking to imbeciles like you.

You've shown the 2 people who are presumptive owners, thats not proof its impartial or reliable.

How can civilians get that type of information? How can civilians get inside information on all sides of a conflict in a third world African hell hole parceled into regions controlled by gangs and warlords? Allover the world? They cannot. You've been conned.

[Wilson2]

I agree. It's not possible to believe one side or another. But the informations they give are still usable if you are able to take them for what they are. Ukrinform publish a daily count of russian personel killed and equipement destroyed. NATO confirms about haf these numbers. However NATO confirms only what they can see from satellite imagary and it's far from complete. Their statement are also based from one month old observations. Whereas Ukrinform is based on daily observation. According to me, and also to some war analysts, it's relatively safe and conservative to divide by two the number published by the Ukrainian ministery of defense althought the real number could be between half and 90% of the ukrainian numbers. It's unlikely to be less than 50% biven the results on the battlefield and available pictures. The russians are not publisshing daily count of Ukrainian losses. Numbers announced by Russiam officials are grossly irrealistic, either for their owm losses or for Ukrainian losses. It doesn't mean that Ukrainian losses are small. They are of course huge and on the same order of magnitude as that of the Russians. Maybe 20% to 50% less

@Fredledingue


Ukrinform is the Ukrainian national news agency, run by the Ukrainian govt. Completely unreliable.

You have it backwards. A DAILY count of enemy dead and lost equipment is absurd. Given the fog of war, doing that on their own Ukrainian dead and lost equipment would be exceptionally difficult and unreliable. A monthly count would be much more accurate because it gives time to monitor the enemy (such as intercept formal and social communications, read casualty lists, see how many replacements and troop movements, see how much activity at aid and hospital stations, etc). Its not just satellites.

But NATO and the Russians are as unreliable as Ukrinform. And so is Biden, the US govt, and US main media. Its war and politics and big money, and a lot of powerful people have a lot invested. They all lie.