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    Quote Originally Posted by UKSmartypants View Post
    And theres another misconception you have that irks me, because ive made this clear time and time again. I dont support either side. THERE ARE NO WHITE HATS IN UKRAINE, read my sig. Why are people like you more interested in supporting Team Putin or Team NATO, rather than just preferring to find the truth? You think things will improve if either side wins? No it wont, they are both evil with evil with evil intent. I get sick of arguing with idiots thats think its a football match and they have to cheer on one side or the other. Its moronic. Its war, war is not the opposite of peace, its the absence of civilisation.
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    Obviously you don't read the posts. I have never claimed a side, I have never claimed Putin was a good guy, and I have written there is no good guy in this war. Show me one post of mine where I support Putin. Rejection of exaggerated claims does not mean I support Putin or Russia, it does mean I seek the truth.

    I am more interested in the truth than you. Since you without justification place false motives on me (such as assuming I support Putin), you are clearly biased.
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    I figured Putin would be worm food by now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hillofbeans View Post
    I figured Putin would be worm food by now
    His Parents and his Grandfather were long lived people all of them in their late 80's thus Putin could at age 71 conceivably still live another decade before he goes into wormfood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilson2 View Post
    @UKSmartypants


    Obviously you don't read the posts. I have never claimed a side, I have never claimed Putin was a good guy, and I have written there is no good guy in this war. Show me one post of mine where I support Putin. Rejection of exaggerated claims does not mean I support Putin or Russia, it does mean I seek the truth.

    I am more interested in the truth than you. Since you without justification place false motives on me (such as assuming I support Putin), you are clearly biased.

    no its based on your blind, and extremely irritating, refusal to accept reliable sources, theres your bias. Read my posts, im rarely wrong about anything.
    I declare that the entire content and attachments of any and all of my posts are for the purposes of personal entertainment, and that i'm perfectly happy the stuff i post is true. Do I care if you doubt my sources or information?, Not one flying fuck. . That's your prerogative, but not my concern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UKSmartypants View Post
    no its based on your blind, and extremely irritating, refusal to accept reliable sources, theres your bias. Read my posts, im rarely wrong about anything.
    And yet despite your claims of due diligence you have not provided any evidence that Oryx is reliable. Nothing at all. I asked rational questions, you claim to have resolved them, yet refuse to help convince me.

    Quote Originally Posted by UKSmartypants View Post
    Read my posts, im rarely wrong about anything.
    Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall. You have been wrong multiple times, particularly in military matters.

    By the way, "smarty pants" is not a complement, its derogatory.
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    Anybody that thinks they got this all figured out and know what’s really happening by reading stuff on line. Is not really that smart at all.

    People get blinded by what they want to happen, so their want becomes their truth.

    I don’t try to fool my self by saying I know what’s really happening, I read some stuff on the internet.

    I follow the keep it simple and practical method. Russia still occupies a good deal of the east, the territory they want. Russia can play this out far longer than the Ukraine can, manpower and replacing of equipment is in Russia’s favor.

    The longer this goes on the more likely the Ukraine will end up being a country of women and old men, that is until Zelensky starts sending old men and women to replace all the men killed. Then it will be a country of parentless children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusader View Post
    Anybody that thinks they got this all figured out and know what’s really happening by reading stuff on line. Is not really that smart at all.

    People get blinded by what they want to happen, so their want becomes their truth.

    I don’t try to fool my self by saying I know what’s really happening, I read some stuff on the internet.

    I follow the keep it simple and practical method. Russia still occupies a good deal of the east, the territory they want. Russia can play this out far longer than the Ukraine can, manpower and replacing of equipment is in Russia’s favor.

    The longer this goes on the more likely the Ukraine will end up being a country of women and old men, that is until Zelensky starts sending old men and women to replace all the men killed. Then it will be a country of parentless children.
    Replacing equipment is not in Russia's favor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oceander View Post
    Replacing equipment is not in Russia's favor.
    It’s not, tell me about the Ukrainians advantage in arms manufacturing. Or about all that western equipment that they’ve supposedly had and is making such a difference, that’s right they are still waiting for the vast majority of it. And when they get it, most of the Ukes can’t operate it, let alone do maintenance on it.

    It takes years for an Army to get proficient with a new weapons system, to learn the ins and outs of it and how to keep if functional in adverse conditions.

    Russias stuff may be technological inferrer, but they know it like the back of their hands and have the capability to make more of it. All the Ukes can do is beg for more western equipment when they either break what they have or the Russians destroy it. That’s the reality of it, not the fantasy of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusader View Post
    It’s not, tell me about the Ukrainians advantage in arms manufacturing. Or about all that western equipment that they’ve supposedly had and is making such a difference, that’s right they are still waiting for the vast majority of it. And when they get it, most of the Ukes can’t operate it, let alone do maintenance on it.

    It takes years for an Army to get proficient with a new weapons system, to learn the ins and outs of it and how to keep if functional in adverse conditions.

    Russias stuff may be technological inferrer, but they know it like the back of their hands and have the capability to make more of it. All the Ukes can do is beg for more western equipment when they either break what they have or the Russians destroy it. That’s the reality of it, not the fantasy of it.
    Or after the Ukrainians fail to make the transition from Soviet style equipment and tactics, Biden will send American soldiers to do the fighting.

    Thats what the democrats want anyway, they want a great big war to distract everyone from their corruption.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilson2 View Post
    Or after the Ukrainians fail to make the transition from Soviet style equipment and tactics, Biden will send American soldiers to do the fighting.

    Thats what the democrats want anyway, they want a great big war to distract everyone from their corruption.
    I fear you may be right, it’s the only way they can crawl out of this debt hole we are in. The Dems have visions of post WWII prosperity except through socialism with a huge government. The two of course are not compatible, but much like the Ukraine war. They think if they say it and wish it enough, it will.

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