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    We have no choice and no voice

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    We have no choice and no voice Since the Taliban retook Afghanistan 18 months ago, women have been virtually erased from public life, as Sky News special correspondent Alex Crawford discovers



    Safiya was meant to graduate the day the Taliban took power. Her family were due at Afghanistan's top business university for a ceremony at the restored Darul Aman Palace near the capital, Kabul. At 22 years old, she was a symbol of Afghanistans progression highly educated and about to start her own business.

    We were so excited, Safiya, now 24, tells me. My two best friends and I planned to wear matching pink suits under our gowns for the graduation.

    She was one of 30 females on her business administration course, outnumbered by men but evidence the country was opening up to women, albeit slowly. A degree from Kardan University, which two years earlier had got the countrys top rating, was a guarantee of success.




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    Democrat voting women should be obliged to live for a year in Saudi Arabia.

    Wasn't communism extremely conservative?

    There was never any need for gay rights. They have been treated equally within our laws for a while (as long as they didn't ponce about for no reason).




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    I do not blame peoples around the world one bit for not trusting the US, we left the south Vietnamese out to dry, we've let the Iraqi's suffer through quite a bit "bringing democracy" to them, we left the Afghanis who helped us out to dry and be tortured I'm sure, I don't trust our government, I've watched them kill Randy Weaver's wife and kid and most of the people at Waco, I think the only people who do trust the US government are in the media and drones 35 and younger.
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    I am appalled by the behavior of the Taliban fighters.

    I understand that life is horrible for Afghani women.

    But if they cannot fight for their freedom, with some of the Afghani men fighting for their women to be free, well, we cannot "Give" them that freedom, no matter how much we might want to. We tried, and thanks to Biden, we failed, badly. Many Afghani's died because they trusted U.S. to be constant, and we were not.

    A grand exercise in America learning that we cannot free other peoples, they have free themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurmugeon View Post
    I am appalled by the behavior of the Taliban fighters.

    I understand that life is horrible for Afghani women.

    But if they cannot fight for their freedom, with some of the Afghani men fighting for their women to be free, well, we cannot "Give" them that freedom, no matter how much we might want to. We tried, and thanks to Biden, we failed, badly. Many Afghani's died because they trusted U.S. to be constant, and we were not.

    A grand exercise in America learning that we cannot free other peoples, they have free themselves.

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    If we wanted to free them we would, but the M/I complex likes quagmires over wins. Unleash our military just once and watch our enemies change their tune quickly about whether or not to submit to the will of the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankenvoter View Post
    If we wanted to free them we would, but the M/I complex likes quagmires over wins. Unleash our military just once and watch our enemies change their tune quickly about whether or not to submit to the will of the US.
    There is no doubt that the U.S. Military can defeat the Taliban Military. But that is not at all the same thing as setting the Afghani women free.

    For the Afghani women to be freed, the culture of the Afghani people will have to change allot. We cannot use military might to change their culture, we will only damage and outrage their whole society in trying to do so.

    Nobody can "Fix" Afghanistan from the outside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurmugeon View Post
    I am appalled by the behavior of the Taliban fighters.

    I understand that life is horrible for Afghani women.

    But if they cannot fight for their freedom, with some of the Afghani men fighting for their women to be free, well, we cannot "Give" them that freedom, no matter how much we might want to. We tried, and thanks to Biden, we failed, badly. Many Afghani's died because they trusted U.S. to be constant, and we were not.

    A grand exercise in America learning that we cannot free other peoples, they have free themselves.

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    It's Islam.
    Eh! What else can I say???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurmugeon View Post
    There is no doubt that the U.S. Military can defeat the Taliban Military. But that is not at all the same thing as setting the Afghani women free.

    For the Afghani women to be freed, the culture of the Afghani people will have to change allot. We cannot use military might to change their culture, we will only damage and outrage their whole society in trying to do so.

    Nobody can "Fix" Afghanistan from the outside.

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    Hence my comment about submitting to the will of the US, they'll do it just look at the Japanese for an example, they were fanatical to the [point of being the origional suicide bombers, people were jumping off cliffs rather than surrender to us as we set foot on their soil, but look at them today.

    All it takes is a vaporization of a city or two, shadows on the wall outlining where thier bodies were as the bomb detonated, maybe take a few of those and place a sign in their language reminding them that's what they get and will again if they ever fuck with the US again, they'll submit, but the MIC doesn't want that.

    We dont even need nukes, just drop a few rods from God.

    It was suspected that's what this was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Rivers View Post
    It's Islam.
    You could say that the evil-acts of the Spanish Inquisition is Christianity, but it would not be true.

    Not ALL of Islam is bad. Radical Islam can be evil beyond most other organized religion of the modern world.

    The percentages of all of Islam, which have been Radicalized are large, compared to the problem elements of most other modern religions, but it is not ALL of Islam.

    If we don't protect and nurture the moderate elements of Islam, the alternatives to stop Radical Islam become many acts of great evil, which we have to embrace just to survive.

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    Dropping "Rods from God" on Afghanistan won't change Afghani culture, it will just kill allot of Afghani's and insure they HATE U.S.

    In twenty years, they will have grown a new army, filled with hatred for the U.S.

    If their culture is changed at all from being "Rodded", it will be for the worse, for the USA.

    I was American Military R&D for 28 years, I helped create the power of the current U.S. Military. I understand it at a deep level.

    Military might does not "Fix" many problems, it just makes them worse.

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