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    'Detransitioners' warn others against gender change

    There are tons of stories emerging about this. Here are just three.


    Here a complex issue was boiled down to fast-tracked transition, before Prisha fully had the time to grasp her subconscious and conscious identity. Life changing alterations were made at the hands of reckless doctors and vulnerable patients.

    "By the time I was 17, I was being medicalized by a pediatrician with a high dose of testosterone. One year later, my healthy breasts were removed.The appointment with my gender therapist was only 15 minutes long. When I walked in, my letter of recommendation was already typed up on her computer, and she was filling in my name in minutes. I had been seeing a regular therapist for several years for my mental disorders.Even she said that all of my other conditions were caused by being born in the wrong body.My parents were lied to and manipulated by the same therapists and by my doctors.They were told to choose between a dead daughter and a living son."

    https://www.tiktok.com/@detransawarenessday/video/7208722920464534827


    Detransitioners keep telling us that they could not consent. They were too young to understand what the impact of their decision would have. When will the medical community and lawmakers listen? Luka Hein

    "At 16, the very first medical intervention I ever had was a double mastectomy.A few months later I was then put on cross sex hormones. I am now 21. I live with constant joint pain. To the point that is so bad that I have not been able to get out of class, out of bed, to go to class. Some days my vocal cords ache, my breasts are gone, and I will never know if I will be able to carry a child because there's a good possibility I'm sterile. You call this care? I could not consent to this due to both my age and my mental health conditions. My parents were baited with the idea that I would commit suicide if this was not given to me. They were told, would you rather have a dead daughter or a living son? These are not the words of a doctor. They are the words of a politically motivated activist. Kids deserve a chance to grow up whole. They deserve a chance at life."

    https://www.tiktok.com/@detransawarenessday/video/7210979562455518510



    'Mutilating children for profit.' California teen sues doctors over breast-removal surgery at 13 in Kaiser Permanente's 2nd blockbuster trans lawsui​t

    Layla Jane says her puberty blockers and hormones were a medical 'torment'
    Kaiser Permanente doctors offered trans care after minutes-long consultations
    Another California teen Chloe Cole last month sued the same hospital

    A California teenager has started to sue the doctors who at age 13 cut off her breasts in a medical gender change she now bitterly regrets. The 18-year-old, who is referred to as Layla Jane, says she should never have been put through the 'torment' of testosterone hormones at age 12 and puberty blockers and surgery the next year.

    She is one of a growing number of detransitioners, as they are known, who come to regret their procedures and sue the doctors they accuse of pushing them into irreversible treatments instead of counselling.
    "I don't think I should have been allowed to change my sex before I could legally consent to have sex. I don't think I'm better off for the experience, and I think transition just completely added fuel to the fire that was my pre-existing conditions."
    According to legal papers, Layla experienced moodiness, anxiety, gender confusion and anger issues as a child. At age 11 learned about radical transgender ideology and went online to learn more about the new trend.
    According to the suit, doctors at the Permanente Medical Group and Kaiser Foundation Hospitals rushed her on to cross-sex hormones and a double mastectomy without properly assessing her mental health problems. Her evaluations lasted only 30 minutes and 75 minutes, records show.
    "These are decisions I will have to live with for the rest of my life," Layla said.
    Layla speaks with a voice deeper than is usual for a young woman, which is understood to be the result of taking the male hormone testosterone for several years. She started to detransition at age 17.

    'Mutilating children for profit.' California teen sues doctors over breast-removal surgery at 13 in Kaiser Permanente's 2nd blockbuster trans lawsuit | Sam's Alfresco Coffee (sammyboy.com)


    parts of article have been copied in case the links later stop working, and for convenience since the articles may be too slow to load for some users. first two are text transcripts from the videos.
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    This us abhorrent.
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    This added to the Plandemic & killshot....Zero confidence left for the medical profession.
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    Three stories, three girls. I don't know if they are the same ones, but all I see on Fox or elsewhere are also girls. I am not seeing any guys who are complaining about their journey to become women. Why? Is it because it is easier to remove fake boobs, and they never went so far as to cut their dicks off?

    We never hear about girls who trans to guys, but every news story about trans seems to be trans-women in sports. What happens when the college sports is over?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dinosaur View Post
    Three stories, three girls. I don't know if they are the same ones, but all I see on Fox or elsewhere are also girls. I am not seeing any guys who are complaining about their journey to become women. Why? Is it because it is easier to remove fake boobs, and they never went so far as to cut their dicks off?

    We never hear about girls who trans to guys, but every news story about trans seems to be trans-women in sports. What happens when the college sports is over?
    BINGO!!!! The vast majority of "male to female" freakzoids KEEP Mr. Mojo in working order... they may be crazy but they ain't fools.
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    One semester of calc, not two anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuaseMarco View Post
    This added to the Plandemic & killshot....Zero confidence left for the medical profession.
    related older thread: "Woke" Progressives now taking over the workplaces in Hospitals

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    Quote Originally Posted by dinosaur View Post
    Three stories, three girls. We never hear about girls who trans to guys, but every news story about trans seems to be trans-women in sports.
    I was able to find four stories posted in this forum about 'detransitioners' who originally started off as males.

    However there might be something to this observation of yours. I have no statistics, but anecdotal observation seems to suggest a larger percentage of the stories about those who regretted it started off as females. However, it could just be that biological males are more likely to just accept the consequences of their actions and "tough it out", whereas biological females are more likely to speak out.
    Don't think there have been any studies on this.

    And these educational institutions probably don't want to give any funding to studies looking at this issue of detransitioning, since it runs counter to their pro-trans ideology.



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    BINGO!!!! The vast majority of "male to female" freakzoids KEEP Mr. Mojo in working order... they may be crazy but they ain't fools.
    I don't know the exact statistics, but one study I saw suggested that maybe around 30 to 35% of them get the "bottom surgery".
    But it's hard to quantify that in a percentage, because some people take the "trans" thing farther than others. There are different types of "trans". Not all of them are "trying to be women". Some of them are content to be in a grey zone somewhere between male and female. I talked to one trans person on another forum (born male) who said he was just on hormones but was not planning to take things farther than that, has already grown partial breasts but they still don't really look like female breasts. But he began the "transition" at the age of 24.

    It's almost become a trend now in some parts of the country for high school and college students to want to identify as "agender" (no gender). It's like they've created their own little subculture.

    I think there's actually more danger (in a way) when the children are started off young because they're going to want to take the process all the way.

    Probably, out of those trans who are actually trying to be a woman, all the way, the percentage is about 50%.
    Jazz Jennings, the star of a reality TV series, got "their" genital surgery at the age of 17, shortly before their 18th birthday.

    "The Jennings family allowed cameras to chronicle 17-year-old Jazz’s initial “bottom surgery,” which involves the removal of male genitalia and fashioning of an artificial vagina, and additional surgeries after her first one went wrong."
    https://nypost.com/2022/05/11/meet-t...g-gender-cult/
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    Here's another video:

    Tiktok - This is what giving a 16 year old girl testosterone for 5 years looks like - produceguy_


    The video shows what appears to be a balding man, not very attractive, about 21 years of age, with what definitely sounds like a man's voice talking.
    The headline over the video reads "This is what giving a 16 year old girl testosterone for 5 years looks like".

    transcript from video:
    "So I got out of my haircut, cause my hair was driving me nuts. And I shaved it because I'm tired of watching my hair thin out, and it's less distressing if I shave it...
    So when I talk about "being too far gone" - I don't know what else to call it - this is what I mean, this is how deep my voice is... um... It's gotten deeper over time. And it's settled. This is what I mean by hairless [bends down head and shows balding reclining hair line] It just keeps getting worse, it keeps thinning, it keeps receeding backwards... um... [looking momentarily not happy] you know and I'm not exactly sure that's coming back... um... Those are the main things, when I talk about being intergenized [intergenital], um, to the point of no return. Um, I really don't see those being fixable. [looking with anxiety out the window] So, that's when I talk about... you know, kind of just staying how I am, regardless of how I feel. Um, that's why, just because I don't really see me personally being able to come back from what's happened, so far. So I hope that's a little explanatory... just to kind of give more awareness to the situation, so you can see where I'm at. Words are not working well with me right now. I'm just going to cut this off, there you go... This is what happens when you give a woman testosterone, for 5 years. This is what happens essentially. So you know, that's it..."

    produceguy_ , Tiktok, October 9, 2022


    I provide descriptions and transcripts from the video because they tend to take these videos down very quickly.

    Lots of people post videos on sites like this without giving their names. (But it's obvious from the videos that the people talking do indeed appear to have undergone a gender transition, they're not just making it up)
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