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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post
    I have woken up. I want nothing to do with any of it. I'm tired of the drama.

    Just because one side is extreme does not mean the other side has to be extreme.

    It also doesn't mean we have to choose either extreme. These are not absolutes.

    I have woken up because I refuse to be a follower of any side. I refuse to follow them to my demise.
    Unfortunately, you are going to have to chose sides. And your demise is assured one way or another. The ship is sinking fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinnity View Post
    The drama is making people unhinged and they don't even realize they've been emotionally radicalized. The truth is always somewhere in the middle. I don't think there's a global conspiracy so much as rich powerful political people have created their own bubble and they're too far afield of common sense. They've convince themselves their values are noble when in fact they're crooks trying to defend a fiefdom.

    The religious right was a key factor in the losses in the mids; as soon as RvW was o/t some states went directly to abortion ban legislation. That only confirmed the left's fears and self-righteousness. The problem with any extreme is the one issue voter/politician. Single issue people become militants and militants are bad for representative democracy and the Constitution.

    Imho, the state GOP's aren't cleaning up elections enough and the D states are entrenching their cheating machine. IDK how to fix that.
    Well I have a number one issue first and foremost and that is the 2nd Amendment absolutism. My second and third absolutism is free speech and laissez faire economics. I don't care how much I might agree with a politician if he/she is anti-gun they don't get my vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLSG View Post
    The term "far right" has become so overused, it has lost all meaning. Most of what is considered "far right" these days would be laughed right out of Hitler's Germany or Mussolini's Italy. It's such a joke.
    Hitler was not far right. Hitler was a socialist, a leftist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Hitler was not far right. Hitler was a socialist, a leftist.
    Then he must not have been a very good one, because the modern left hates his guts. They talk about him like he's still alive.

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    The West which is about 30 countries, will become the "new" "third world as it were" while the 160 countries that make up the rest of the world will become prosperous and maybe somewhat free in the not to distance future. Folks The West is dead and done. Now some countries that make up The West like Japan might escape the velocity of destruction but most are too far gone to escape the velocity of the toilet flush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLSG View Post
    Then he must not have been a very good one, because the modern left hates his guts. They talk about him like he's still alive.
    That's because they have bought the lies told by the communists that the Nazis were not socialists. The essential distinction is that communism is full-bore in terms of economic seizure by the State, and communism pretends to internationalism (i.e., the proletariat of all countries, whereever situated, were viewed as the proper subjects of communist affection)whereas Nazis, as socialists, were committed to an economic half-way house where private property was still permitted to exist, but at the sufferance of the government and subject to command and control by the government, and they were also nationalists, with an order of preference between people based on their ethnic origins (this wasn't just jew vs. non-jew, they had a whole hierarchy of more and less worthy ethnicities).

    But, at bottom, they are all socialists, committed to comprehensive control of the economy by the government and the subjection of private property to the whims of the State.
    So let us stop talkin' falsely now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quark View Post
    Unfortunately, you are going to have to chose sides. And your demise is assured one way or another. The ship is sinking fast.
    As far as demise goes I'm far more worried about our geo-political foes than I am the sides here in domestic America. Let's just say I'm far enough from DC where if China wipes it off the face of the Earth I'll be fine....but I will be affected. Been thinking a lot about storing food and water recently.
    Last edited by Matt; Today at 04:31 PM.
    It's not my circus and they aren't my monkeys. No need to be involved in the show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post
    I honestly have no idea where that leaves me. Screwed and with no allies I guess.
    Or, maybe you're a deSantis supporter.

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