If this is true why did Christ preach repentance to the masses?Originally Posted by Freewill
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If this is true why did Christ preach repentance to the masses?
Humble yourself, for there is an enormous change coming.
tlmjl (03-18-2023)
Just to touch on one part of S-N-A-F-U's post.
A little off subject but interesting and an example how so much can be missed by folks when reading the scriptures.
I was amazed at how easily I missed this over the years but I always use it as an example of how easy it is to miss important details! 8-(
You see it?
Adam is actually blaming God for his sinning!
Yes, he blames "the woman" but he's included God for giving "The Woman" to him! 8-)
God’s command, as found at Genesis 2:16, 17, reads: “From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction. But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will positively die.”
At the time this command was given to Adam, he was alone in the garden, for the creation of the woman is not mentioned until later in the account. (Gen. 2:21, 22) The command itself likewise shows that Adam was by himself. In the original Hebrew text, the word “you” is in the singular.
For us today it is vital that we exert ourselves so as not to fall into the same line of reasoning as did Adam and Eve. Though Adam was not deceived, the rebellion of his wife apparently caused him to lose faith in his heavenly Father’s ability to work out matters to his blessing. Seemingly he even took offense against Jehovah God, saying: “The woman whom you gave to be with me, she gave me fruit from the tree and so I ate.” (Gen. 3:12) As for Eve, she was completely deceived. Through the serpent’s words, Eve came to believe that Jehovah God was keeping her low and in ignorance. Thus she came to view disobedience, independence from God, as the way to happiness, as attributed by Satan.
Remembering that what Adam and Eve did in eating an actual, but divinely forbidden, fruit signified rebellion against Jehovah God's sovereignty, we should want to make it our determination to remain loyal subjects of our Creator. Never do we want to be deceived into thinking that God’s laws are unjust and not in our best interests. Regardless of what circumstances may develop, we, unlike Adam, ought to keep before us the fact that Jehovah God can and will bless his devoted servants. We have the Biblical assurance, confirmed by numerous examples throughout human history, that Jehovah God is the “rewarder of those earnestly seeking him.”—Heb. 11:6.
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Yes, ancient teachings of flawed man, not God almighty.
Belief in reincarnation is based on the teaching of the immortality of the soul. However, the Bible teaches that the soul is the entire person and is thus mortal. (Genesis 2:7, footnote; Ezekiel 18:4) At death, a person ceases to exist.—Genesis 3:19; Ecclesiastes 9:5, 6.
In the resurrection, people who have died will be brought back into existence by God’s power. (Matthew 22:23, 29; Acts 24:15) The resurrection offers the positive hope of coming back to a new earth with the prospect of never dying again.—2 Peter 3:13; Revelation 21:3, 4.
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God Created man and angels alike with free will.
Yes, angels were created with personalities, divine qualities, and free will. Hence, like humans, they can choose to do right or wrong. Sadly, some angels chose to rebel against God, as evidenced.—Jude 6
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Old Ridge Runner (03-19-2023)
Then, why is it supposedly impossible to choose to rebel against God in Heaven? You said that angels have the free will to choose to rebel.
He created something only for it to be eventually doomed.
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You got it: It's about living and learning, the hard way. Most will fail miserably.
Indeed they do, and did...
Yes, there are evil angels. Where did they come from? Recall that God created angels with the gift of free will.
Shortly after the first man and woman, Adam and Eve, were created, a perfect spirit creature abused his freedom of choice and instigated rebellion on earth. He succeeded in getting Adam and Eve to rebel against God. (Genesis 3:1-7; Revelation 12:9) The Bible does not specify what this spirit creature’s name was or what rank he held in heaven before he rebelled. But after his rebellion, the Bible appropriately calls him Satan, which means “Resister,” and the Devil, which means “Slanderer.”—Matthew 4:8-11.
Sadly, the ungodly rebellion did not end there. In Noah’s day an unspecified number of angels “forsook their own proper dwelling place” in God’s heavenly family. They came down to the earth and took on fleshly bodies to pursue a depraved and immoral course, deviating from the purpose of their existence.—Jude 6; Genesis 6:1-4; 1 Peter 3:19, 20.
The good angels now can be glad because Satan and the bad angels, or spirits, were no longer in heaven, but driven out and confined to earth.
"And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him; “Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time.”—Revelation 12:7-9, 12.
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I don't know what happened here? duplicate
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Duplicate as well.
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