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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless terrier View Post
    pretty much. Black Sea is NOT international waters .. been closed to US since 2020.
    Can you provide some documentation or a link for the claim that the Black Sea is closed to the United States since 2020? Truthfully, I ain't heard that one yet.... Thank you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pollycy View Post
    Can you provide some documentation or a link for the claim that the Black Sea is closed to the United States since 2020? Truthfully, I ain't heard that one yet.... Thank you!
    I believe access to The Black Sea is thru Turkey....so not sure why we couldnt access via a NATO country

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless terrier View Post
    pretty much. Black Sea is NOT international waters .. been closed to US since 2020.
    Well....the drone was downed in international waters over The Black Sea.........

    We had ships in The Black Sea until Biden let Russia run us off from there
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freewill View Post
    Wouldn't our ships going into the Black sea be equivalent to a Russian ship going into Lake Erie?
    From my understanding Turkey isn't allowing warships to navigate Bosporus strait unless Black Sea is there home port.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pollycy View Post
    Can you provide some documentation or a link for the claim that the Black Sea is closed to the United States since 2020? Truthfully, I ain't heard that one yet.... Thank you!





    Three NATO countries—Romania, Bulgaria, and Turkey—also have a coast on the Black Sea. Although the sea is international waters, only warships from the countries along its coastline can stay more than three weeks under the Montreux Convention of 1936.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Freewill View Post
    Wouldn't our ships going into the Black sea be equivalent to a Russian ship going into Lake Erie?
    Is lake Erie international waters?

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    Getting ready to dance in The Black Sea? or Clickbait?

    Escalation? Or Fiction? Cause I dont think Biden has the Balz


    US deploys 2 aircraft carriers in strike group to Turkey



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    Quote Originally Posted by What'sThat? View Post
    Getting ready to dance in The Black Sea? or Clickbait?

    Escalation? Or Fiction? Cause I dont think Biden has the Balz


    US deploys 2 aircraft carriers in strike group to Turkey



    That empty headed bastard has no idea. Xi and Putin are forming an alliance. China flies spy balloons over our mainland with impunity. The US is China’s largest trading partner. You tell me wth is going on.

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    I am not convinced the deployment is correct or real......cause Biden pulled our ships out of The Black Sea in early 2022 when the hostilities broke out and Russia now has 20+ ships in The Black Sea

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl View Post



    Three NATO countries—Romania, Bulgaria, and Turkey—also have a coast on the Black Sea. Although the sea is international waters, only warships from the countries along its coastline can stay more than three weeks under the Montreux Convention of 1936.




    Yes, and what you've stated is also what I have thought... that the Black Sea is an international body of water with access to it, and over it, being guaranteed to all nations. My question requesting clarification was directed to @ruthless terrier ,who had indicated in his post that American presence on the Black Sea had been somehow canceled or terminated in 2020.

    The only portion of any part of the greater Black Sea that is supposedly 'off-limits' is a small inlet called the "Sea of Azov", which is claimed, evidently, by both Ukraine and Russia. "The sea is considered an internal sea of Russia and Ukraine, and its use is governed by an agreement between these countries ratified in 2003." Of course, that was before the shit hit the fan in 2022....

    Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_of...ed%20in%202003.
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