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    Quote Originally Posted by Quark View Post
    You aren't going to defeat Russia but if you like nuclear war than by Godfrey lets get it on. Do you idiots really think Russia and the other 160 nations are going to let The West and NATO defeat Russia? Not even close. We are in WWIII and it's only going to get hotter. Look for more cyberwarfare to shut down The West and US infrastructure. Russia is going to start placing ships in international waters to fire nuclear tip hypersonic cruise missiles to be fired at US ports as the war heats. Ya the ships will be taken out after the missiles fire but the East Coast will be one nuclear waste zone. Russia will take the world down with it if it has to.
    One nuclear tip hyper sonic missile hitting a US port, will signify the the complete destruction of Russia within the hour.

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    THIS is from a Twitter post. I can't find any hard stories on it yet but:


    BREAKING - Putin is negotiating with Taliban on the purchase of US coalition military equipment that was left behind in Afghanistan as a result of the United States' hasty withdrawal in 2021 for use in the war against Ukraine.
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/24/o...smid=share-url


    The Afghans I Trained Are Fighting for Putin in Ukraine

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    Quote Originally Posted by d0gbreath View Post
    One nuclear tip hyper sonic missile hitting a US port, will signify the the complete destruction of Russia within the hour.
    If Russia loses Crimea, Russia would be destroyed too..... albeit more slowly. But they will go down fighting.

    And Russia is not going to stand by why Ukrainian thugs execute ethnic Russians in the East of Ukraine. That would be a betrayal that would not be forgotten.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    By your standards, isn't the USA already in WW3 given our massive numbers of allies also are helping Ukraine?

    Historians are going to have an interesting job recording this war, and it is a war not a "special military operation," and it is a world war.


    It's the first of the world wars that few will admit to. NOBODY paying attention to Russian state media has any doubt that Putin and his henchmen have declared full-on war with the West and NATO.

    Every .... single .... day the theme is repeated and every show on Russia's premier Russia 1 TV channel, the voice of the Kremlin. The laughter must be loud in the evil chambers of the Kremlin.


    "Stupid, cowardly Americanskis, we freaking say right to their faces EVERY DAY that we will own them, and they can't seem to figure out that means we've declared war on them."

    American people are so soft, they can't believe something is going to spoil their soft lives, and interrupt their demonizing the other political party. It's all too comfortable.

    It's well past time for some Western leader with a spine to start calling Putin's bluffs. He's bluffing. The West has crossed EVERY ONE of his red lines.

    Something like this:

    Mister Putin, you've got two months to get ALL of your forces the hell OUT of Ukraine, because, well, you know, if you don't you might see things happen that you've never seen before, because, you know, we've got nukes too.


    Throw that line right back into Putin's face.

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    IMHO....and no I am not as military astute as others here......Russia has the means to win and end this war quickly and decisively. They are being hesitant in using their most formidable weapons. Hesitant in luring The West into escalating the conflict.

    A long-extended conflict........... is not in Russia's interest.

    But an eventual quick and devastating blow.........yes a definite possibility.

    Seems to me they been reluctant to go that far..... but I think if The West continues poking the bear.....and threatening The Bear..... given the disfunction and weakness within The Biden regime....at some point using these game changing weapons may appear to them more logical.

    And what will The West do then? Are we willing to match their escalation? I dont think so as it took Biden and Germany a long time to come around just approving the tanks.

    And please don't associate my opinion as being supportive of Russia. Best case scenario is they are drawn into a stalemate and retreat.....or Putin loses power in Russia. But dont misunderstand the harsh winter months with the coming spring and summer offensive push.


    The current state of the conflict is draining their arsenal......as it is ours. We are taking weapons and ammo from Korea and Israel to give to Ukraine.......all the while the 800Ib gorilla......China continues to build. Read yesterday it will take years to replenish what we lost in Afghanistan during Bidens disastrous exit and now what Biden is giving Ukraine. I don't think we can look at the Ukraine situation in a vacuum


    Anybody else see a plausible one - two punch coming?
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    Quote Originally Posted by imaginethat View Post
    Historians are going to have an interesting job recording this war, and it is a war not a "special military operation," and it is a world war.


    It's the first of the world wars that few will admit to. NOBODY paying attention to Russian state media has any doubt that Putin and his henchmen have declared full-on war with the West and NATO.

    Every .... single .... day the theme is repeated and every show on Russia's premier Russia 1 TV channel, the voice of the Kremlin. The laughter must be loud in the evil chambers of the Kremlin.


    "Stupid, cowardly Americanskis, we freaking say right to their faces EVERY DAY that we will own them, and they can't seem to figure out that means we've declared war on them."

    American people are so soft, they can't believe something is going to spoil their soft lives, and interrupt their demonizing the other political party. It's all too comfortable.

    It's well past time for some Western leader with a spine to start calling Putin's bluffs. He's bluffing. The West has crossed EVERY ONE of his red lines.

    Something like this:

    Mister Putin, you've got two months to get ALL of your forces the hell OUT of Ukraine, because, well, you know, if you don't you might see things happen that you've never seen before, because, you know, we've got nukes too.


    Throw that line right back into Putin's face.
    NO. Putin declared war on the globalists & nazis. The current fascist west just happens to be allied with the globalists & nazis devastating their own countries with plandemic lockdowns, dangerous jabs & cutting out energy, destroying supply chains.....the west including America has given its authority over to the globalists like the WEF & the UN.

    Stop lying. I HATE liars. They are WORSE than Putin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d0gbreath View Post
    One nuclear tip hyper sonic missile hitting a US port, will signify the the complete destruction of Russia within the hour.
    You think it would go down as simple as that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knightkore View Post
    NO. Putin declared war on the globalists & nazis.
    Thus, Putin's enemy is the same enemy that good Americans fight.... in our courts, in our schools, in our congress, in our white house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by What'sThat? View Post
    You think it would go down as simple as that?
    Nope. Russia would use a nuke in Ukraine first. Our congress would never agree to use a nuke against Russia unless we are facing attack.
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