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    Exactly what one gets when they rely on any denomination of "church" to translate for them, what they should learn for themselves. And the RCC should be the only "whipping boy" mentioned here?

    Nah, I think not. How many "Christians" do you suppose were directly involved with the horrendous acts done against those people they claimed to be "witches" in the Salem Witch Hunt"?? More than one, maybe 10, 50,100, 1000?

    KJV Luke 6:41

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregonejeep View Post
    Exactly what one gets when they rely on any denomination of "church" to translate for them, what they should learn for themselves. And the RCC should be the only "whipping boy" mentioned here?

    Nah, I think not. How many "Christians" do you suppose were directly involved with the horrendous acts done against those people they claimed to be "witches" in the Salem Witch Hunt"?? More than one, maybe 10, 50,100, 1000?

    KJV Luke 6:41


    Therein lies the problem. Since the protestant reformation took place in the 16th century, some specific tenet's or doctrine were adopted from the RCC, and others rejected. Since then, denominations of the Christian faith have increased to an estimated 45,000 globally (according to the Center for the Study of Global Christianity), many separated by either church doctrine, or 'mans traditions'.

    Obviously, there is something wrong with this picture. Whereas, Jesus created one faith and one way.

    "One Lord, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all." ~ Ephesians 4:5-6, KJV

    And all Christians are be in agreement with one-another, and be of the same mind.

    "Now I urge you, brothers and sisters, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all agree and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be made complete in the same mind and in the same judgment." ~ 1 Corinthians 1:10, NASB


    And so be it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by S-N-A-F-U View Post

    --The short and most efficient answer to the question asked here is that the image depicts a heretic impersonating the Vicar of Christ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mornac View Post
    --The short and most efficient answer to the question asked here is that the image depicts a heretic impersonating the Vicar of Christ.
    Actually, the Scriptures are quite clear. Unfortunately,man has strayed from God over the centuries, instead of embracing his word (the Bible) as the final authority on all things, they have created for themselves church doctrines and dogmas as a supplement thereto...

    "BUT IN VAIN DO THEY WORSHIP ME, TEACHING AS DOCTRINES THE PRECEPTS OF MEN.’” ~ Matt. 15:9, NASB

    A little more history of man and his church...
    THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH OF THE MIDDLE AGES ...




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    Quote Originally Posted by S-N-A-F-U View Post
    Actually, the Scriptures are quite clear.
    --They are to the members of Christ's Church which in fact wrote the New Testament and is therefore uniquely authorized to explain its meaning. This has become particularly relevant in the era following the Protestant Rebellion wherin untold numbers of sola scripturists have attempted to mold its meaning to accomodate their desired beliefs. The result has been the institution of thousands of "churches" each claiming that their particular understanding of Scriptiure is true - even when it conflicts with that of competing Protestant rebels. Thankfully (but not surprisingly), Christ founded His One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church and endowed it with the authority to diseminate all of the Truths that He revealed to it along with the promise that "the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."

    Unfortunately, man has strayed from God over the centuries, instead of embracing his word (the Bible) as the final authority on all things, they have created for themselves church doctrines and dogmas as a supplement thereto...
    --Man has strayed from God's Church over the centuries instead of embracing the truths that He entrusted to it and which are still available to anyone who is willing to hear them.

    BUT IN VAIN DO THEY WORSHIP ME, TEACHING AS DOCTRINES THE PRECEPTS OF MEN. ~ Matt. 15:9, NASB
    --Although Christ justifiably admonished the Scribes, the Protestants would do well to heed His admonishment as well.

    little more history of man and his church...
    --As a member of Christ's Church, I have no interest in any man's church. There are far too many of those in the world lo these past five centuries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mornac View Post
    --They are to the members of Christ's Church which in fact wrote the New Testament and is therefore uniquely authorized to explain its meaning. This has become particularly relevant in the era following the Protestant Rebellion wherin untold numbers of sola scripturists have attempted to mold its meaning to accomodate their desired beliefs. The result has been the institution of thousands of "churches" each claiming that their particular understanding of Scriptiure is true - even when it conflicts with that of competing Protestant rebels. Thankfully (but not surprisingly), Christ founded His One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church and endowed it with the authority to diseminate all of the Truths that He revealed to it along with the promise that "the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."

    --Man has strayed from God's Church over the centuries instead of embracing the truths that He entrusted to it and which are still available to anyone who is willing to hear them.


    --Although Christ justifiably admonished the Scribes, the Protestants would do well to heed His admonishment as well.


    --As a member of Christ's Church, I have no interest in any man's church. There are far too many of those in the world lo these past five centuries.
    The origin of the RCC, and it's published authority through it's Doctrines & Dogmas over Biblical authority has been discussed many times over the years on this site. And the admonishments by Jesus apply to all Men, regardless of so-called denominations.

    However, not to be repetitive...

    The history of the Bible starts with a phenomenal account of history! It's an ancient collection of writings, comprised of 66 separate books, written over approximately 1,600 years, by at least 40 distinct authors. The Old Testament contains 39 books written from approximately 1500 to 400 BC, and the New Testament contains 27 books written from approximately 40 to 90 AD. The Jewish Bible (Tanakh) is the same as the Old Testament, except for its book arrangement. The original Old Testament was written mainly in Hebrew, with some Aramaic, while the original New Testament was written in common Greek.

    Beginning as early as 250 BC, the Hebrew Bible was translated into Greek by Jewish scholars in Alexandria, Egypt. This translation became known as the "Septuagint.

    Starting in about 40 AD, and continuing to about 90 AD, the eye-witnesses to the life of Jesus, including Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul, James, Peter and Jude, wrote the Gospels, letters and books that became the Bible's New Testament. These authors quote from 31 books of the Old Testament, and widely circulate their material so that by about 150 AD, early Christians were referring to the entire set of writings as the "New Covenant." During the 200s AD, the original writings were translated from Greek into Latin, Coptic (Egypt) and Syriac (Syria), and widely disseminated as "inspired scripture" throughout the Roman Empire (and beyond).

    However, the Universal (Catholic) Church (4th Century) converted the original tongues from Aramaic/Hebrew (OT) - Koin Greek (NT) to Latin which was intramental in the publication of their Bible (the Douay version) originally in Latin. It also influnced the English version of the KJV. Since then, many errors were found in the these translations. Biblical scholars went back to the original tongues and retranslated many of the Bible versions we have today for accuracy.

    Having said that...

    The Plain Truth about the Roman Catholic Church


    The Criminal History of the Papacy - 1

    What you choose to believe is up to you. (Isa. 44-6, (NKJV)
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    John was the only apostle whose writings are in the Bible. All other forms of the New Testament were written by disciples of said individuals.


    Sacred heart of Mary, pray for us now and at the hour of our death...AMEN
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    ​For the sake of his sorrowful Passion....have mercy on us and on the whole world






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    Quote Originally Posted by tlmjl View Post
    John was the only apostle whose writings are in the Bible. All other forms of the New Testament were written by disciples of said individuals.
    Actually, the apostle John wrote five Bible books. He was next to Jesus at the last meal that the disciples ate with their Master. John was also with Jesus when He died. (John 13:23-26; 19:26) John wrote one of the four Bible accounts of Jesus’ life called the Gospels. He also wrote down the Revelation that Jesus gave him and the three letters in the Bible that are named after him. (Revelation 1:1)
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    Quote Originally Posted by S-N-A-F-U View Post
    Actually, the apostle John wrote five Bible books. He was next to Jesus at the last meal that the disciples ate with their Master. John was also with Jesus when He died. (John 13:23-26; 19:26) John wrote one of the four Bible accounts of Jesus’ life called the Gospels. He also wrote down the Revelation that Jesus gave him and the three letters in the Bible that are named after him. (Revelation 1:1)
    My knowledge of scripture pales beside yours, and I wonder if you know whether it has been determined that the Apostle John was indeed the same author as "John of Patmos", the author of the Book of Revelation. I found this information, which didn't offer anything definitive:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_o...attributed.%20
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    Quote Originally Posted by pollycy View Post
    My knowledge of scripture pales beside yours, and I wonder if you know whether it has been determined that the Apostle John was indeed the same author as "John of Patmos", the author of the Book of Revelation. I found this information, which didn't offer anything definitive:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_o...attributed.%20

    The apostle John names himself as the writer of the book and designates the place of writing as the island of Patmos, where John was in exile at the time for being a preacher of God’s Word and a witness of Jesus Christ. (Rev. 1:1, 9,
    Amplified Bible) The time of writing was possibly about 96 C.E. It is also called the Apocalypse of John the Apostle.



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