Secret BOOK by Pope Benedict BLASTS progressive Pope Francis...

[potlatch]

I'm glad to see this come out on Francis and would like to see him forced out and the CC return to piety and adherence to the Bible.

I don't believe that can happen, much as we'd like it to, because soon after Francis became Pope he removed Cardinals, who were against him, and sent them to locations outside the Vatican. I believe he may have a solid 'core' of followers that will 'elect' the next Pope - if there is a 'next Pope'. I read that in articles years ago.

[Dr. Felix Birdbiter]

Vatican I was the beginning of the end for the Catholic Church. In this Council the Infallibility of the Pope was established in which if the Pope said it it was the Law of the Church. While this was meant to combat the issue of Bishops making their own rules it has lead to a dictatorial Papacy in which whatever the Pope says cannot be questioned

[kazenatsu]

Catholic Priest Frank Pavone had to transfer out of his diocese in New York state and then finally lost his job in the Church due to his strong anti-abortion activism.
He had brought to light some shocking stories that have been going on in America concerning abortion, things many of you would probably not believe. (including state governments intentionally making it a policy not to enforce their own laws, allowing things to go on that people would assume are banned)
Apparently he rocked the boat too much.

[Jen]

Oh plenty. The current Pope has been condoning porn and gay clubs in the seminaries. I already didn't like him because he's a freaking Marxist. But this is delish. Pope Marxist has been shunning and punishing people within his dominion for reading Benedicts traditionalist books.

I really loved John Paul and Benedict was someone I knew almost nothing about, but apparently he was very "traditional" and respected. I'm glad to see this come out on Francis and would like to see him forced out and the CC return to piety and adherence to the Bible.

Francis may have squirted that toothpaste out of the tube in such a way that it can never be fixed.

Sad state of affairs. I loved John Paul also... went to a Mass in the Vatican when he was presiding and he threw a Blessing in my direction.

[Jen]

I still have a hard time with how Satan can even infiltrate the one church, never mind everything else. Is there anything left in the world that is being resisted or relatively untouched by the very dark influences? And why are they continuing to so thoroughly get away with it?

Satan has infiltrated everything.... all churches, not just one.

As I have said before, we are approaching a divide in the road. I believe that we will choose the right direction and start the long process of fixing the Evil that has held us back for a very long time.

[potlatch]

Vatican I was the beginning of the end for the Catholic Church. In this Council the Infallibility of the Pope was established in which if the Pope said it it was the Law of the Church. While this was meant to combat the issue of Bishops making their own rules it has lead to a dictatorial Papacy in which whatever the Pope says cannot be questioned

This may help;

---The Pope's opinions are not infallible and he can be wrong. The Pope cannot change Church dogma. The Pope can only be infallible when he speaks Ex Cathedra, which means 'under the guidance of the Holy Spirit'. Ex cathedra is a Latin phrase, meaning not "from the cathedral," but "from the chair".

---The First Vatican Council in 1869-70, in its Pastor Aeternus decree, declared that the pope was infallible when he spoke “ex Cathedra” – or from the papal throne – on matters of faith and morals.

---There are only two instances of ex Cathedra, and both are about Mary: her Immaculate Conception (declared by Pope Pius IX in 1854 and grandfathered in after the First Vatican Council’s declaration of papal infallibility in 1870) and her bodily Assumption into heaven (declared by Pope Pius XII in 1950).

[potlatch]

Catholic Priest Frank Pavone had to transfer out of his diocese in New York state and then finally lost his job in the Church due to his strong anti-abortion activism.
He had brought to light some shocking stories that have been going on in America concerning abortion, things many of you would probably not believe. (including state governments intentionally making it a policy not to enforce their own laws, allowing things to go on that people would assume are banned)
Apparently he rocked the boat too much.

There was a very long thread about that, I can't even recall all of the specifics but some of we Catholics did write on it. I specifically posted at least one link that showed Pope Francis stating that he is against abortion.

---I truly wish people would spend time looking up some of these things they speak out about instead of repeating them over and over again. I look things up each time I post trying to be accurate about what I write.

[tlmjl]

Vatican I was the beginning of the end for the Catholic Church. In this Council the Infallibility of the Pope was established in which if the Pope said it it was the Law of the Church. While this was meant to combat the issue of Bishops making their own rules it has lead to a dictatorial Papacy in which whatever the Pope says cannot be questioned

Your talking about dogma.....the last time a Pope did that was back in 1950 when Pope Pius XII issued a dogma about the "Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary".

Dogma refers to something that ALL catholics are to believe. I really don't think that this current Pope is dumb enough to try and issue a dogma. Chances are it would cause a schism in the church whatever he did....based on his character and past performance.

[Mr. Independent]

Satan has infiltrated everything.... all churches, not just one.

As I have said before, we are approaching a divide in the road. I believe that we will choose the right direction and start the long process of fixing the Evil that has held us back for a very long time.

I have become less optimistic, as far as I'm seeing things right now. I think we are saddled with things continuing in the same path and getting only worse and God would have to punish us with his wrath for us. Having hope "that we will choose the right direction" is almost magical thinking if we don't see any indicators, and even if there was it seemed to only be one step forward but two steps back.

The bad guys also have and harnessed their tools to influence entire countries and institutions on such a scale we could only dream of achieving...

[imaginethat]

Oh plenty. The current Pope has been condoning porn and gay clubs in the seminaries. I already didn't like him because he's a freaking Marxist. But this is delish. Pope Marxist has been shunning and punishing people within his dominion for reading Benedicts traditionalist books.

I really loved John Paul and Benedict was someone I knew almost nothing about, but apparently he was very "traditional" and respected. I'm glad to see this come out on Francis and would like to see him forced out and the CC return to piety and adherence to the Bible.

The RCC forever has been the home of diddling priests. A friend went to a very well-known and "respected" Catholic prep school. The Jesuits were party animals. The priests were diddlers. This happening 60 years ago.


The RCC has been progressive for almost all of its existence. it created doctrines to suit. It invented the Trinity. It invented a hell of eternal conscious torment. And about Mary.

Scripture actually has very little to say about Mary. There’s no description of her physical appearance, nothing about her life, her later years after Christ’s death, or her own death and burial. And when she does briefly appear with the disciples and the other believers on the day of Pentecost, she’s not an object of worship or even a leader in the early church—she’s just one among many. There simply are no biblical examples of anyone ever praying to her, honoring her, or venerating her.

Nor does she play a role in any biblical explanation of the gospel. Paul wrote a magnificent treatise on the doctrine of salvation that we know as the book of Romans, and all he said about the mother of Jesus is that she was “a descendent of David” (Romans 1:3). He’s even less specific in Galatians, another lengthy exposition of the pure, true gospel in which he simply said that Christ was “born of a woman” (Galatians 4:4).

https://www.gty.org/library/blog/B130227/exposing-the-heresies-of-the-
catholic-church-mary-worship



The Roman Church, Constantine's Church, put itself in between the believer and God when Christ clearly said call no man rabbi. Call no man father. Clearly.



And the Pope.....

As the head of the Roman Catholic Church, the pope is often called the “Holy Father” and the “Vicar of Christ”—names and roles that only apply to God. He claims the ability to speak ex cathedra, exercising Godlike infallibility to add to and augment Scripture (Revelation 22:18). He wields unbiblical, unholy authority over his followers, usurping the headship of Christ and perverting the work of the Holy Spirit.




The Reformers understood that and declared it with unashamed boldness. As Martin Luther wrote to a friend, “We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist. . . . Personally I declare that I owe the Pope no other obedience than that to Antichrist.

https://www.gty.org/library/blog/B130226


I am a universalist Christian, meaning I believe in God's total victory over sin and death. zI'm not judging any individual Christian. The RCC may be a good fit for some, and hallelujah for that.


But one Pope criticizing another Pope is the tiniest baby step toward exposing the 1,700 years of heresies overseen by the Roman Catholic Church.