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    Using small rifle primers in pistol rounds.

    Well been thinking on doing this for awhile now, but the time has come. I have 5000 9mm rounds to load and only 2000 small pistol primers, but I have plenty of small rifle primers. From my research on the matter and talking to others that have done it, itís not added pressure thatís an issue. Itís the harder cup on the rifle primers that can cause no firers especially with striker fired handguns.

    So far Iíve primed 40 9mm cases each with CCI SRP, Magtech SRP and CCI magnum SRP. I loaded and fired one of the magnum SRP cases, just the case no propellent or bullet in a Glock 17 and a Beretta APX. Both ignited the primer on the first strike, thatís a good sign. Iíll load the rest up with a minimum powder charge and hit the range with them next week. Iíll take three different kinds of striker fire and a hammer fired handgun with me. If itís successful, Iíll load them all up.

    Anybody else used small rifle primers in handgun reloads.

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    Nope no knowledge on this but I'll be very interested how this works out. Please keep us posted on your results @Crusader.

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    That's damn interesting, and I'm all for working with what you have and making what you have work. Sometimes it doesn't pan-out though. Good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusader View Post
    Well been thinking on doing this for awhile now, but the time has come. I have 5000 9mm rounds to load and only 2000 small pistol primers, but I have plenty of small rifle primers. From my research on the matter and talking to others that have done it, it’s not added pressure that’s an issue. It’s the harder cup on the rifle primers that can cause no firers especially with striker fired handguns.

    So far I’ve primed 40 9mm cases each with CCI SRP, Magtech SRP and CCI magnum SRP. I loaded and fired one of the magnum SRP cases, just the case no propellent or bullet in a Glock 17 and a Beretta APX. Both ignited the primer on the first strike, that’s a good sign. I’ll load the rest up with a minimum powder charge and hit the range with them next week. I’ll take three different kinds of striker fire and a hammer fired handgun with me. If it’s successful, I’ll load them all up.

    Anybody else used small rifle primers in handgun reloads.
    Nope, had no idea there was a difference.
    I just read about the TCM, from Armscor, that they used small pistol primer in the shortened 223 bottlenecked case. Had no clue what they were talking about. Very interesting!

    Are pistol primers scarce or something?
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    Yes they’ve been extremely hard to get for a while now. Before Biden they were plentiful and about $30 for a 1000, they became almost impossible to find after Biden and the scamdemic and the priced increased to around $100 for a 1000. They are starting to become more available and the prices are starting to come down but still at around $80 for a 1000.

    I use to be able to load 1000 rounds of 9mm for around $130, now it’s between $200-225. That’s still $50-60 cheaper then buying ready made ammo, but not half the cost like it use to be.

    I’ll let you all know how it goes.

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    You have to love American ingenuity!

    I'm not a reloader, but this is cool to read about! Let us know how it goes!

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    Let us know how the experimenting goes. I'm not at the point where I need to do that.

    I've not had an issue getting primers. Midways notification system works well. Plus, I've always maintained a good stock....just because.

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    I’ve made it this far on my stock but the supply is now getting low and I’m having a hard time accepting the new reality of reloading components pricing. Hoping the supply and pricing continues to improve, then I’ll bite the bullet and stock up.

    During the whole ammo shortage I was still able to shoot as much as I wanted. I have a large stock of new ammo I keep for SHTF that I haven’t broken into and use my hand loads for training. I shoot a lot average twice a week, usually well over 1000 rounds fired a week. That’s a combination of rifle, center fire handgun and rimfire, recently got a rimfire AR and Glock to ease up my consumption of center fire ammo but still ended up shooting 600 rounds of 9mm last week, along with another 600 in rimfire.

    My rounds fired for 2022 was 28,740 all combined with over 12,000 of that being center fire handgun rounds. I have resorted to mandatory rimfire days about twice a month where I’ll only shoot my 22’s, those days can easily see 800-1000 rimfires shot down range. Good thing 22 is still cheap and available or I’d really be in trouble.

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    I dabbled in reloading 9mm. At the time, small pistol primers were very scarce and I overpaid the panic prices. But I had thousands of them, and I was confident in them. Experimenting with other primers seems counter productive to me. They will never be "right", so why spend time on them?...the savings is not huge. I surmised that the savings was to be found in casting lead. I learned about it... but never did it..however, at the time, if I had invested in the "tools", I could have made 9mm rounds for cheaper than 22LR. Lead used to be found from wheel weights for cheap, no more wheel weights, but large chunks of lead can be found if you get creative. The lead obviously fouls the barrel, but that is easily cleaned with a copper "chore boy". I applaud your experimenting with other primers...In an emergency that knowledge could be useful, but if your just trying to save money....Hell, just view those overpriced pistol primers like a luxury (or hookers and blow)...Cheers.

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    Tested the rounds this morning, fired a total of 80 rounds through four different handguns. All but 5 fired and two of those fired when restruck, two would not fire no matter how many times I tried them. All the CCI rifle primers fired, two of the CCI magnum rifle primers failed to fire but fired on the second try. Surprisingly it was the MagTech rifle primers that caused the most no fires and three would not fire upon follow up shots.

    It’s a good enough percentage for me, I’ll load them up. I’ll get some failure drill training in with them too, the ones that would not fire in the handguns I’m gonna try in my 9mm carbine. If that’s a no go too, I’ll just break the rounds down and reuse the components. The life of a reloaded, never boring always something new to try.

    Heres the test guns and the ammo bags, also fired 500 rounds of 22lr in a TX-22 and M&P 15/22.

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