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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubler9 View Post
    My grandson has been diagnosed with it by an official person. But he never acts out those symptoms when I am with him, away from his home. When he used to use my settee as a trampoline I never tolerated it. I told him to behave. If he refused I told him we will not go to the park with his football - he would immediately comply and NOT HATE ME. He still wanted to be with me in the park. The same when he speak to me, he will put his phone down and speak, with others he does not take his eyes off his phone, even when spoken to.
    I believe ADHD does exist and some children need to be medicated. I taught a young boy piano lessons and he could barely focus to play one song. He wasn't belligerent or anything. He was a sweety. But he just had a very short attention span. His parents medicated him and he was able to focus and learn well.

    The problem is when teachers want to settle down a normal active child and use a convenient diagnosis and medication to do it. My oldest son was a very active child, but when he wanted to learn something he could focus on it easily. When he was 5 he decided he should learn to write cursive. He used the examples on the tablet I had bought him to teach himself. At 5 a child's hand muscle coordination is usually not sufficiently developed to be able to write cursive.... he did it anyway. He never needed medication and I would have never allowed it. I did notice that red drinks had him bouncing off the walls so I changed his drink to Tang. ... no more wall bouncing. It wasn't the sugar (in his case) it was the red dye.

    I have told many parents to avoid medicating their child for ADHD unless there is real observable reason to do it. Most children respond well to rules and schedules. They need that. When a parent fails to provide that stability, a child can seem to have ADHD when they don't have it at all. My kids were well behaved, but I told them what was expected of them, didn't expect more than their age could handle, and they always came through for me. I could sit them on the front pew at the church, play the keyboard before church and they didn't act in embarrassing fashion.
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    I agree with @Jen and @Mr. Claws. It is a real condition that is over diagnosed and the medicine, which is basically speed, is over prescribed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubler9 View Post
    My grandson has been diagnosed with it by an official person. But he never acts out those symptoms when I am with him, away from his home. When he used to use my settee as a trampoline I never tolerated it. I told him to behave. If he refused I told him we will not go to the park with his football - he would immediately comply and NOT HATE ME. He still wanted to be with me in the park. The same when he speak to me, he will put his phone down and speak, with others he does not take his eyes off his phone, even when spoken to.

    You just described one of my Grandsons. He never acted out at my house, unless his parents were present. In his now 26 years I only had to raise my to him, once. I firmly believe that less then 1% of those children diagnosed with ADHD actually have what they're trying to call ADHD. Children usually just turn out exactly how you raise them. Discipline (that doesn't mean beating them) is important, Setting boundaries that they understand is very important
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunsettommy View Post
    My daughter has attention deficit disorder and it is real, and she fits the symptoms to the max.

    People with the inattentive type of ADHD struggle to pay attention or stay focused for long periods of time. Some of the symptoms of this type of ADHD include:1



    • Being easily distracted
    • Difficulty following directions
    • Difficulty staying on task
    • Forgetfulness
    • Losing personal items such as keys or books
    • Not paying attention to details
    • Problems staying organized
    • Short attention span

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    Wow, that's like the covid symptoms. Everyone has ADHD. For children who are bright and are in classrooms geared for students with double-digit IQs, most of those symptoms are inevitable. Whether it's real or not is not mine to say but I have dealt with kids who had ADHD and they didn't seem to have the problems with me.


    I think it may be overused by adults looking for an excuse for their shortcomings as a parent or a teacher. I know this is a shock but people are individuals including kids. Even if you put them all in grey uniforms and make all of them sit in a row and tell all of them that have to follow the steps one through thirty-seven-thousand you'll have some that don't fit in and it isn't an illness.


    I know of a set of twin girls whose grandmother decided very early that one was the good twin and one was the bad twin. In this case, good was obedient and bad was independent. The twins are adults now and granny still considers one good and one bad. Me? I preferred that "bad" and saw nothing bad about her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrickt View Post
    Wow, that's like the covid symptoms. Everyone has ADHD. For children who are bright and are in classrooms geared for students with double-digit IQs, most of those symptoms are inevitable. Whether it's real or not is not mine to say but I have dealt with kids who had ADHD and they didn't seem to have the problems with me.


    I think it may be overused by adults looking for an excuse for their shortcomings as a parent or a teacher. I know this is a shock but people are individuals including kids. Even if you put them all in grey uniforms and make all of them sit in a row and tell all of them that have to follow the steps one through thirty-seven-thousand you'll have some that don't fit in and it isn't an illness.


    I know of a set of twin girls whose grandmother decided very early that one was the good twin and one was the bad twin. In this case, good was obedient and bad was independent. The twins are adults now and granny still considers one good and one bad. Me? I preferred that "bad" and saw nothing bad about her.
    I do agree with absolutely. I think there is a close link with high iQ. My grandson is super clever. He also understands stuff you think only adults would comprehend.

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    It is real. However, like autism, it gets over-diagnosed in children to justify access to school funds for special needs students.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubler9 View Post
    I do agree with absolutely. I think there is a close link with high iQ. My grandson is super clever. He also understands stuff you think only adults would comprehend.
    My kids were put in remedial reading and classified as having learning disabilities. I went to the school and the principal refused to talk with me till the reading specialist arrived. She arrived and no one talked with me. They talked to me. I was told my children had learning disabilities and couldn't read.

    I opened my briefcase and took out the book I was currently reading. It was a book on effective management by Peter F. Drucker. I handed it to my 10-year-old son and said, "Read!" He read a half dozen paragraphs perfectly well. "Give the book to your sister." My 9-year-old daughter read perfectly well.

    Then they attacked my children for tricking the reading specialists. The specialists said, "You didn't read that well for the test." My son said, "You want us to read stupid stuff." I said, "They are back in the regular class and they will read the stupid stuff." I looked at my kids and they both nodded.

    But it's not all bad. When my son's seventh-grade history teacher taught the class that the Holocaust never happened I got a lovely lecture about academic freedom from the principal.


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    "I'm 81 now and I might die within six weeks and prove the doctors were right all along." LOL



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