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    Zelensky Signs Decree Ruling Out Peace Talks With Putin as ‘Impossible’


    Zelensky says talks could only be held with Russia when there's a new president

    by Dave DeCamp Posted onOctober 4, 2022

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    Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday signed a decree that ruled out any talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin, declaring they would be an “impossibility.”

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    Seems to me there were peace talks going on 5 or 6 months ago then all of a sudden they fell apart.

    We will all have to come to our conclusions as to why.

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    Why should Zelensky, et al, come crawling to The Fenestraphobe when the Ukrainian military is currently kicking the orc invaders asses out of Ukraine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traddles View Post
    Why should Zelensky, et al, come crawling to The Fenestraphobe when the Ukrainian military is currently kicking the orc invaders asses out of Ukraine?
    I'll buy you a beer when that happens

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    I guess Putin should start invading all of Ukraine, maybe that will force him to the peace Table Zelenskyy doesn't care if all of the fighting is in Eastern Ukraine, my opinion

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    Sooner or later, both sides will have to sit down and negotiate. To say you won't negotiate is license for the other guy to kick your butt until you unconditionally surrender. Yeah, the worm turns, and sometimes, the worm bites you in the ass.

    Unless Zelensky wants a forever war, he needs to negotiate a peace. Same for Putin.

    How many billions have we spent destroying things over there? Here is my dinosaur solution:

    1. Declare the former USSR responsible for stupid lines on a map and former killing and resettlement. (gives both Ukraine and Russia a way out saving face)
    2. Agree that those stupid borders are the borders, period.
    3. Instead of funding weapons, put the billions into a fund to help ethnic Russians in Ukraine to sell out and relocate inside Russia, if they want. Otherwise, forgiveness and amnesty as Ukrainians.

    As far as NATO vs. Russia goes ... I haven't seen anything that tells me NATO wants to invade Russia, but Russia seems to be the aggressor, first annexing Crimea, and now parts of Ukraine. Russia does not need to fear NATO, unless, of course, Russia is planning additional land grabs. You would think they are learning a lesson in Ukraine, but maybe not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dinosaur View Post
    Sooner or later, both sides will have to sit down and negotiate. To say you won't negotiate is license for the other guy to kick your butt until you unconditionally surrender. Yeah, the worm turns, and sometimes, the worm bites you in the ass.

    Unless Zelensky wants a forever war, he needs to negotiate a peace. Same for Putin.

    How many billions have we spent destroying things over there? Here is my dinosaur solution:

    1. Declare the former USSR responsible for stupid lines on a map and former killing and resettlement. (gives both Ukraine and Russia a way out saving face)
    2. Agree that those stupid borders are the borders, period.
    3. Instead of funding weapons, put the billions into a fund to help ethnic Russians in Ukraine to sell out and relocate inside Russia, if they want. Otherwise, forgiveness and amnesty as Ukrainians.

    As far as NATO vs. Russia goes ... I haven't seen anything that tells me NATO wants to invade Russia, but Russia seems to be the aggressor, first annexing Crimea, and now parts of Ukraine. Russia does not need to fear NATO, unless, of course, Russia is planning additional land grabs. You would think they are learning a lesson in Ukraine, but maybe not.
    Rich, famous, hell yeah he wants forever war. Keep sending the Uncle Sam bucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freewill View Post
    Rich, famous, hell yeah he wants forever war. Keep sending the Uncle Sam bucks.

    and once it's nearly done, he'll fly out of there to one of his multi-million dollar mansions with all his bank accounts loaded with u.s. taxpayer cash, never to be seen again.

    life is good when you're a grifter, esp on an international scale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorRob View Post
    I guess Putin should start invading all of Ukraine, maybe that will force him to the peace Table Zelenskyy doesn't care if all of the fighting is in Eastern Ukraine, my opinion
    He kinda tried that, and it did not work out well.

    It took the Ukr's a while to counter the Russkie's WWII Arty barrage and move forward strategy, but they got it down now.
    Until Russia restrategizes, they will continue to be on the run.
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