A question for the Russia advocates, and everyone else....

[Wildrose]

Do you always engage in hyperbole and speculation, or just today?

FYI, Jean-Pierre called, she wants her note cards back

That isn't speculation, it's history and current events.

They invaded Europe again when they invaded Ukraine.

[squidward]

That isn't speculation, it's history and current events.

They invaded Europe again when they invaded Ukraine.

Invaded an entire continent? Quite an abstraction Mr I don't engage in hyperbole.

[Taxcutter]

Funny thing. The only logical reason (given Russia's history) to invade Ukraine was to restore Kate the Great's borders and the fabulous strategic depth they afford to Russia.

But NATO was a wonderful "buffer" for Russia. And he was getting a thick buffer zone for nothing.

Take away the US and what is NATO? A collection of European weak sisters who specialize in lots of gab but no action. Less the US, NATO has zero first-rate powers, maybe three third or fourth-rate powers (Germany, UK, France), three fifth-rate power (Poland, Sweden, Finland) and twenty-odd mini-states (think Hungary or Slovakia) with no ability or will to do anything about their own defense. Just talk. NATO is normally reluctant to even schedule a conference on security. Trump was rightly disgusted with this collection of two-bit bureaucrats and was working to disengage the US from this bunch of moochers.

But the Tsar hits NATO with a Pearl Harbor sized jolt and now faces the toughest sanction regime ever. Even China suffers from the "overspray."

Monumental screw-up. He could have left everything the way it was BEFORE the invasion and enjoyed a thick and benign buffer zone. Twenty-odd Hungarys. Bu being Russian he just HAD to be aggressive.

And then added insult to injury about faux-Nazis.

[old dog]

The U.S., NATO and Europe could have left everything alone and not kept marching right up to Russia's border for the past two decades. We are have a comfortable buffer two oceans to protect us and have not been invaded a bazillion times.

[imaginethat]

The U.S., NATO and Europe could have left everything alone and not kept marching right up to Russia's border for the past two decades. We are have a comfortable buffer two oceans to protect us and have not been invaded a bazillion times.

A detail that is usually overlooked, many of the new NATO member countries had suffered as Soviet Socialist Republics. Hungary and Czechoslovakia had been invaded. Poland wasn't about to forget that Hitler and Stalin had divvied up Poland between them.

The first additions to NATO were Hungary, the Czech Republic and Poland, no surprise.

[Wildrose]

Invaded an entire continent? Quite an abstraction Mr I don't engage in hyperbole.

You know for a mind like yours I know it's hard to grasp but when you invade a continent you start with one country generally.

An army is like a snowball, you'd better stop it before it gains any momentum and before its commander gains the confidence to go further.

[Wildrose]

Funny thing. The only logical reason (given Russia's history) to invade Ukraine was to restore Kate the Great's borders and the fabulous strategic depth they afford to Russia.

But NATO was, a wonderful "buffer" for Russia. And he was getting a thick buffer zone for nothing.

Take away the US and what is NATO? A collection of European weak sisters who specialize in lots of gab but no action. Less the US, NATO has zero first-rate powers, maybe three third or fourth-rate powers (Germany, UK, France), three fifth-rate power (Poland, Sweden, Finland) and twenty-odd mini-states (think Hungary or Slovakia) with no ability or will to do anything about their own defense. Just talk. NATO is normally reluctant to even schedule a conference on security. Trump was rightly disgusted with this collection of two-bit bureaucrats and was working to disengage the US from this bunch of moochers.

But the Tsar hits NATO with a Pearl Harbor sized jolt and now faces the toughest sanction regime ever. Even China suffers from the "overspray."

Monumental screw-up. He could have left everything the way it was BEFORE the invasion and enjoyed a thick and benign buffer zone. Twenty-odd Hungarys. Bu being Russian he just HAD to be aggressive.

And then added insult to injury about faux-Nazis.

The only thing Russia has, or ever has had to fear from NATO is that it would defend itself if invaded.

[Wildrose]

The U.S., NATO and Europe could have left everything alone and not kept marching right up to Russia's border for the past two decades. We are have a comfortable buffer two oceans to protect us and have not been invaded a bazillion times.

Our nations' oceans have not prevented our being invaded from the east, west, north, or south.

In the modern world they are all but useless against anything other than a direct seaborne invasion which isn't even necessary today to bring the country to its knees.

[old dog]

Our nations' oceans have not prevented our being invaded from the east, west, north, or south.

In the modern world they are all but useless against anything other than a direct seaborne invasion which isn't even necessary today to bring the country to its knees.

You can't line up tanks and artillery on our eastern and western seaboards.

[Wildrose]

You can't line up tanks and artillery on our eastern and western seaboards.

So what? Isn't necessary to do so to successfully attack and invade the US.