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    Washington Is Making the Same Blunder Regarding Taiwan That It Did in Ukraine

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    Washington Is Making the Same Blunder Regarding Taiwan That It Did in Ukraine

    by Ted Galen Carpenter Posted on August 02, 2022

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    Tensions between the United States and the People’s Republic of China (PRC) are rising sharply over the Taiwan issue. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s stated intention to include a stop in Taipei to meet with Taiwanese officials during her forthcoming trip to East Asia is the latest source of trouble. Pelosi apparently escalated that provocation further by inviting other prominent members of Congress to join her in that stop. Her actions have caused even the staunchly pro-Taiwan Biden administration to quietly press her to change her plans. Conversely, congressional hawks are urging Pelosi not to back down.


    The reason for the administration’s caution are readily apparent. Beijing has reacted with unusually intense anger to the prospective visit, with President Xi Jinping warning the United States not to "play with fire" on the Taiwan issue. Pelosi’s visit is the latest – and most serious – in a series of U.S. actions over the past several years that have infuriated PRC leaders. The Biden administration needs to exercise even greater wariness about Pelosi’s venture than it already has. Indeed, Washington needs to back away from its overall hardline policy toward the PRC.

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    Just more drivel from the Peace Through Appeasement crowd...

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    Sooner or later, we are going to have to face this issue. We better get prepared.

    China screwed the pooch on Hong Kong, going in full authoritarian after claiming they would not for xx years. Taiwan sees that and does not even want to negotiate. That doesn't leave a lot of options for PRC.

    Personally, I wouldn't mind a reunification, as long as it looked more like Taiwan and less like the Mainland. That's just wishful thinking on my part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    Just more drivel from the Peace Through Appeasement crowd...
    You didn't read the article where it showed that America has in 1979 backed off from Taiwan to a lower level as part of increasing dialogue with China:

    For 4 decades after Washington shifted diplomatic relations from Taipei to Beijing in 1979 and passed the Taiwan Relations Act to govern reduced, informal relations with Taiwan, US administrations were careful to limit visits to the island to low-level officials.
    Early forefathers warned about entangling alliances with nations far away a warning so many ignore today.
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    Bring "chip manufacturing" back to this country and Taiwan will become as important as Nauru... as in NOT.
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    Heaven forbid we irritate the CCP. The "One China" policy is an obsolete agreement between Nixon and Mao as part of a cold war strategy to contain the Soviet Union. Times have changed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinosaur View Post
    Sooner or later, we are going to have to face this issue. We better get prepared.

    China screwed the pooch on Hong Kong, going in full authoritarian after claiming they would not for xx years. Taiwan sees that and does not even want to negotiate. That doesn't leave a lot of options for PRC.

    Personally, I wouldn't mind a reunification, as long as it looked more like Taiwan and less like the Mainland. That's just wishful thinking on my part.
    American stupidity is pissing China off so much they are now setting up a Military BLOCKADE of Taiwan in response to Pelosi's stupid unnecessary visit.

    Pelosi Leaves Taiwan as China Prepares Effective Military Blockade

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Claws View Post
    Bring "chip manufacturing" back to this country and Taiwan will become as important as Nauru... as in NOT.
    That's many years away and Joey waving a $200 billion magic wand will not make it happen any sooner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunsettommy View Post
    American stupidity is pissing China off so much they are now setting up a Military BLOCKADE of Taiwan in response to Pelosi's stupid unnecessary visit.

    Pelosi Leaves Taiwan as China Prepares Effective Military Blockade
    If we had a president with balls that would be enough of an excuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunsettommy View Post
    American stupidity is pissing China off so much they are now setting up a Military BLOCKADE of Taiwan in response to Pelosi's stupid unnecessary visit.

    Pelosi Leaves Taiwan as China Prepares Effective Military Blockade
    We can easily blockade China entirely at the Straits of Malacca and the First Island Chain and they will quickly crumble.
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