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    Survival food

    Caveat empty.

    Yeah.... alot of it is empty of protein. Some people only need 50 grams of protein a day. Hard workers need 2 or 3 times that much.

    The "delicious" complete meals seem to advertise calories. Yeah... you need those. But you won't be worth shit if you aren't getting protein.... complete protein with the essential amino acids.


    I see advertisements pulling all the marketing strings .... patriot, survivalist, family, yada yada yada. Find out the amount of protein in grams. Divide by 50 and you will get the maximum number of days you can remain nutritionally fed.... for one person.


    The following applies to shelf stable food that does not require refrigeration or freezing.
    Protein costs money. I measure the cost of protein in "cost per 10 grams of protein". Plant protein runs well under a dollar per 10 grams. Dry nonfat milk.... equally low priced. Dried eggs .... more. Then meat .... you can get some canned meat like canned corned beef for under a dollar per 10 grams. But it goes up from there. Even sardines are more than that. I have been willing to pay significantly more if I'm buying long shelf life too. But since you need a minimum of 50 grams a day per person, it gets pricy to stock up all at once for 6-12 months for a few people. I arbitrary decided to use a rule of 50% protein from plants and 50% from animal products ( meat, milk, cheese, eggs... all shelf stable forms). And I have complete protein mix ( like beans plus wheat/rice) or products like quinoa and buckwheat whose protein is already "complete"... containing the essential amino acids.



    So ... do what seems right for your situation but I'm just saying that these prepared meals that are being advertised may be shortchanging you on protein.
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    We'll find out, won't we. The schitt, it be gettin REAL.

    I'm in the midst of a move...so, as I move supplies, I'm basically inventorying them. I have roughly six months' worth. Not sumptuous meals. Six months of two-meals-a-day, 1200-calorie meal-days.

    I am hoping that's enough. Obviously there won't be NO food. If there is NO food, we all die. Those of us with stores, die first...we know why.

    What will happen, is that the masses get soy and bug-paste. Obviously I will have to eat what's available. My stores should stretch it - especially since anything coming out of a Gates Foundation laboratory will be suspect in nutritional value.

    MOST normie-morons have NOTHING. Three days worth. Hey, I'm in the top two percent, there. Hopefully, again, I can hide my food sources, while all around me starve. That will take a hard heart, in addition to other strength requirements.

    Although I love the outdoors, I'm not what anyone would consider an outdoorsman. I can paddle a canoe. I can shoot a gun. That doesn't mean I can shoot accurately enough to hit a doe; or someone else's dairy cow, and then field-dress it and make off with the meat.

    We will see. The odds, even with my preps, are highly against my survival.

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    I hope the electric grid stays up. Lots of people have freezers full of protein. They won't be coming after my shelf stable food for awhile.
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    Been sizing a Solar/Battery system to supply a fridge and a freezer indefinitely.

    That would make things way easier for a couple years. After that I will die and the kids will be on their own.
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    Donner party... soccer team Andes crash... there'll always be plenty of "protein", just a question of how far one's prepared to go to survive when the alternative is one's own death... just something to ponder with all the Doomsday planning.
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    We have some money left over from the loan we made to get the well fixed, so I've been considering solar or a gas generator to hook up out freezer and frig to in case of a power outage. I think I am going to go with the generator because the money we have left over will cover most if not all of the cost. Then I'll have to start stocking up on gas, which I am not to keen on doing, having all of that stuff sitting around. As far as cooking I'll pit my grill on the back porch and use that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Claws View Post
    Donner party... soccer team Andes crash... there'll always be plenty of "protein", just a question of how far one's prepared to go to survive when the alternative is one's own death... just something to ponder with all the Doomsday planning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Claws View Post
    Donner party... soccer team Andes crash... there'll always be plenty of "protein", just a question of how far one's prepared to go to survive when the alternative is one's own death... just something to ponder with all the Doomsday planning.

    Cannibalism is a serious health risk.

    Just saying. No moral proscriptions involved.

    We will do what we have to; but, in the case of last-ditch survivalism, you do NOT want to resort to that.

    Use an intermediate creature. Say, pigs.

    The farmers' rule of thumb: Four pounds of grain (or Woketard flesh) one pound of grain.

    Butcher pig. Cook well-done. SERIOUSLY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Physics Hunter View Post
    Been sizing a Solar/Battery system to supply a fridge and a freezer indefinitely.

    That would make things way easier for a couple years. After that I will die and the kids will be on their own.
    I saw a report on that issue not long ago, cant remember where. The guy used a Jackery 1500 with solar panels to run his freezer (a Jackery 1000 will also work, but the 1500 has lots of reserve for cloudy days). Worked well, once the freezer contents are frozen the freezer doesn't run that often. You can also drape a blanket over the top and sides (not the back, and don't block air flow under the bottom) to add insulation.

    There are other off the shelf units, and you can build your own to the Jackery 1500 specs.

    I just checked the price, Jackery 1500 with 4 100W panels is $2899. The battery pack/generator alone is $1699. Last year these types of generators were about $0.90-$1.00 a watt. Prices going up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Ridge Runner View Post
    We have some money left over from the loan we made to get the well fixed, so I've been considering solar or a gas generator to hook up out freezer and frig to in case of a power outage. I think I am going to go with the generator because the money we have left over will cover most if not all of the cost. Then I'll have to start stocking up on gas, which I am not to keen on doing, having all of that stuff sitting around. As far as cooking I'll pit my grill on the back porch and use that.

    Solar units are quiet. Gas generators are loud and advertise to the world you have stuff.

    But if you use gas generators, you can replace the simple spark arrestor type muffler they have with a real muffler and cut the noise a lot. Then build a simple "box" (4 plywood panels tacked togethor to form 4 walls, no top) and put the generator in it so sound is directed up. The result is still noisy but a lot better than a standard generator sitting in the open.

    And there are the super quiet Honda gas generators, they are really quiet to begin with and you can get the EU2200 units and link them to get 120 and 240V.
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