Patrick Cockburn: Will the Ukraine War End Without Destroying All Life on the Planet?

[phoenyx]

This article was just published today on scheerpost.com. Pretty sure I've published articles with similar titles, but they all have different important notes. I think the most important note in the quote of the article I'll be making below is that unlike in the past, this time, few seem to be aware of how much U.S. and its NATO allies are flirting with disaster.


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May 13, 2022

Veteran award-winning journalists Patrick Cockburn and Robert Scheer, who met in Moscow in 1987 when Mikhail Gorbachev optimistically promised peace, now fear a descent into nuclear war hell.

Patrick Cockburn who reported for the Financial Times and The Independent from the Middle East and other war zones for decades and now writes for Britain’s i News, joins Robert Scheer on this week’s “Scheer Intelligence” to discuss what could come next in this conflict and how far down the nuclear rabbit hole we really are.

In 1987, the prospects for peace were promising when Gorbachev joined Ronald Reagan in committing to a sharp reversal of hostile relations between the US and the Soviet Union following the precedent set by Cold Warrior Richard Nixon a decade earlier in suddenly negotiating peace with Mao’s China. Today, after steadily worsening US relations with post-Communist Russian leader Vladimir Putin, we face the likelihood of a disastrously ever widening war and the tangible threat of a nuclear holocaust.

Cockburn, whose most recent book, “War in the Age of Trump,” put events in the Middle East into the context of what he witnessed in the post-September 11 Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and Libya offers fresh analysis of the war in Ukraine from the vantage point of a former war correspondent. He argues thatfrom the beginning, it’s been a bizarre conflict, perhaps unlike any other, and that it’s likely that Putin did not expect Russia’s invasion to go as it has. Regardless of expectations on either side of the conflict, what’s clear to Cockburn and Scheer is that nuclear war becomes more likely with every minute the violence continues. Even though this threat is more real than ever before, including at the height of the Cold War, Cockburn argues that there seems to be less fear and awareness about it than previously.
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Full article:
Patrick Cockburn: Will the Ukraine War End Without Destroying All Life on the Planet? | scheerpost.com

[Quark]

Yes the potential is certainly there. The world is being lead by insane mental midgets.

[Taxcutter]

Sure it can. It is called a "peace of mutual exhaustion." Both sides are too worn out to continue. Most wars tend to end for this reason. Viz: The Seven Years War.

[phoenyx]

Sure it can. It is called a "peace of mutual exhaustion." Both sides are too worn out to continue. Most wars tend to end for this reason. Viz: The Seven Years War.

I certainly agree that this conflict can end without resorting to nukes. So did the others of the linked article in the OP. I think their main point was to point out the fact that if U.S. and NATO aren't careful, nukes could become a part of this war.

[Swedgin]

Life will survive.

In some form or fashion.

HUMAN life, may not, but, probably in some pockets.

Civilization is what can be utterly destroyed. And that can be done without a single mushroom cloud. Just upper atmospheric EMP bursts.....

Lots of people still die, just slower, and with no radiation burns or mutations.....