User Tag List

Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123
Results 21 to 25 of 25

Thread: S.C. majority tramples healthcare workers' rights while upholding vaccine mandate

  1. #21
    Alumni Member Achievements:
    Social1 year registered50000 Experience Points
    Overall activity: 89.0%

    Wildrose's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2019
    Posts
    14,137
    Thanks
    976
    Thanked: 2,088
    Rep Power
    8921620
    Quote Originally Posted by johnwk View Post
    I have no reason to research tort law, and the reasonable expectation standard. I simply brought it up because of what you stated about a "privately owned organization" and my response to that giving an example which could very well wind up in the courts.

    A person works for a company for, say 15 years and nears retirement, and does so under specific rules agreed to by both parties. And then, 15 years down the road the employer decides to demand the employee follow a newly created rule or get fired and lose their expected retirement agreement. This of course raises the reasonable expectation argument: is the new rule reasonable to the degree that would justify the employee losing their expected retirement plan and void the employee/employer agreement which happens to be an issue for the court to decide.


    JWK
    Yes, you brought it up so are we going to discuss it or not?

    Pandemics change rules and procedures at all healthcare facilities as we've seen since the beginning of this one.

    Unless there's a breech of contract I don't see it being applicable here.

    EDTA:

    This ruling makes the work rules enforceable upon the employers so they are left with no choice in the matter. Either the employees will get vaccinated or be terminated because of it.
    Last edited by Wildrose; 01-14-2022 at 08:05 PM.

  2. #22
    Senior Member Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsTagger First ClassVeteran
    Overall activity: 12.0%

    johnwk's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2018
    Posts
    410
    Thanks
    119
    Thanked: 665
    Rep Power
    2147497
    Quote Originally Posted by Wildrose View Post
    Yes, you brought it up so are we going to discuss it or not?
    No. I have no reason to discuss it. I only brought it up in passing and in relation to what might happen if employees are fired.


    You are free to agree or disagree.

    JWK

  3. #23
    Senior Member Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsTagger First ClassVeteran
    Overall activity: 12.0%

    johnwk's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2018
    Posts
    410
    Thanks
    119
    Thanked: 665
    Rep Power
    2147497

    Shadow government actors given green light by S.C. majority in vaccine mandate case

    .
    .
    When an unelected body [Health and Human Services] is allowed to omnipotently exercises legislative, judicial and executive authority, as was done in this case [its vaccine mandate upon healthcare workers], the losers are the American people, and the winners are those engaging in tyranny.

    Let us not forget the unadulterated truth found in James Madison's words: "The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny.” ___ Madison, Federalist Paper No. 47

    Why have a Congress of the United States elected by the people if an unelected body is free to judge, legislate and pass law?

    Why are so many agreeable with an act of a government agency which violates fundamental guarantees and protections written into our Constitution?

    Why have a written constitution approved by the people if those who it is designed to limit and control are free to make it mean whatever they wish it to mean?

    JWK

    Today's Democrat Party Leadership is infested with Socialist Revolutionaries, the same kind that took over Cuba and now rule over the people with an iron fist!

  4. The Following User Says Thank You to johnwk For This Useful Post:

    RICHIECOQUI (01-16-2022)

  5. #24
    Senior Member V.I.P Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsSocialVeteran
    Overall activity: 0%

    squidward's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Posts
    7,845
    Thanks
    909
    Thanked: 3,724
    Rep Power
    21474852
    Quote Originally Posted by Wildrose View Post
    HCW's are without a doubt working in an environment where transmission can easily occur and have a duty to protect patients.
    how do the vaccines protect patients ? Are the vaccinated spreading less virus ?
    If an asset that the government can get for nothing — capital — is essential to producing assets that command prices — consumption goods — then you would be wise to search for a sleight-of-hand operation.

  6. #25
    Senior Member Achievements:
    50000 Experience PointsTagger First ClassVeteran
    Overall activity: 12.0%

    johnwk's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2018
    Posts
    410
    Thanks
    119
    Thanked: 665
    Rep Power
    2147497
    Quote Originally Posted by squidward View Post
    how do the vaccines protect patients ? Are the vaccinated spreading less virus ?
    Keep in mind what Justice Thomas stated in his dissent which can be found HERE

    "These cases are not about the efficacy or importance of COVID–19 vaccines. They are only about whether CMS has the statutory authority to force healthcare workers, by coercing their employers, to undergo a medical procedure they do not want and cannot undo. Because the Government has not made a strong showing that Congress gave CMS that broad authority, I would deny the stays pending appeal. I respectfully dissent."

    In fact, the majority opinion by giving a green light to an unelected body to exercise executive, judicial and law-making powers meet the very definition of tyranny as stated by James Madision:


    ”The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands [Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services] may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny.” ___ Madison, Federalist Paper No. 47

    JWK




    "The Constitution is the act of the people, speaking in their original character, and defining the permanent conditions of the social alliance; and there can be no doubt on the point with us, that every act of the legislative power contrary to the true intent and meaning of the Constitution, is absolutely null and void. ___ Chancellor James Kent, in his Commentaries on American Law , 1858.
    Last edited by johnwk; 01-16-2022 at 02:17 PM.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •