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Thread: Observation: Do Biden's poll numbers not bode well for Trump in 2024?

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    Biden is the most divisive figure ever in US politics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolltide View Post
    Remember the libtard media loved Trump during those republican primaries and debates in 2015-2016. They wanted him to be the republican nominee because they could not imagine him winning the general election.

    Trump's poor performance with independents was in large part because they wanted the noise to go away. Independents do not like the constant partisan fighting and hate. Even though the Democrats and the media were causing 2/3 of that noise Trump was the catalyst for it. By replacing Trump with Biden things did calm down. Had Trump been reelected we would have seen riots again.

    It's not always fair and it might not be the way we want it. It is just reality. Trump pisses off too many people and with Jan 6th there is no way he is viable.
    You think the Independents are happy and content with the idiot biden? You sir have wholly swallowed the medias propaganda.
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    Favorability among Independents:

    source: https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/vkklxli0...nTabReport.pdf
    Donald Trump 44%
    Joe Biden 38%
    Kamala Harris 33%
    Chuck Schumer 25%
    Adam Schiff 21%

    Unfortunately they didn't poll Hillary, Gavin Newsom, Stacey Abrams, Bernie Sanders or Mayor Pete.

    Does anyone, besides @Rolltide, seriously believe that any of the possible democrat contenders can beat Trump? Tulsi Gabbard might have a chance, thankfully the democrats will never nominate her. Did I miss anyone from the democrats deep bench?

    And remember the words of James (the snake) Carville: "It's the economy, stupid." By 2024, that will probably be the number one issue. No one will remember 1/6 except the far left Kool-Aid drinkers.

    Track record on the economy versus mean tweets. Hmm, which one will be the deciding factor in putting food on the table?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolltide View Post
    Even though the Democrats and the media were causing 2/3 of that noise Trump was the catalyst for it.

    that is an idiotic statement. you say Trump was a catalyst but Democrats and media were a cause. did you know that catalyst and cause are the same thing? go somewhere else with your "orange man bad" guilt trip.
    Most normal people have always known that there are others in the world who are on the edge of sanity. The cost of tolerating mentally unstable people was to walk on eggshells around them in normal conversation. If you avoided their trigger topics .. their insanity was a private affair .. and it stayed in their head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless terrier View Post
    that is an idiotic statement. you say Trump was a catalyst but Democrats and media were a cause. did you know that catalyst and cause are the same thing? go somewhere else with your "orange man bad" guilt trip.
    You need to consult a dictionary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by old dog View Post
    Favorability among Independents:

    source: https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/vkklxli0...nTabReport.pdf
    Donald Trump 44%
    Joe Biden 38%
    Kamala Harris 33%
    Chuck Schumer 25%
    Adam Schiff 21%

    Unfortunately they didn't poll Hillary, Gavin Newsom, Stacey Abrams, Bernie Sanders or Mayor Pete.

    Does anyone, besides @Rolltide, seriously believe that any of the possible democrat contenders can beat Trump? Tulsi Gabbard might have a chance, thankfully the democrats will never nominate her. Did I miss anyone from the democrats deep bench?

    And remember the words of James (the snake) Carville: "It's the economy, stupid." By 2024, that will probably be the number one issue. No one will remember 1/6 except the far left Kool-Aid drinkers.

    Track record on the economy versus mean tweets. Hmm, which one will be the deciding factor in putting food on the table?
    Why are you using polls? We have how people actually voted. Trump only got 41% of the independent vote and there was no strong third party candidate.
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    Catalyst Definition Meaning - Merriam-Webster

    2: an agent that provokes or speeds significant change or action
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan40 View Post
    You think the Independents are happy and content with the idiot biden? You sir have wholly swallowed the medias propaganda.

    Did I say that? So if I never said that why is that the basis of a post?

    The entire thesis of this thread is that people do not like Biden at all but they liked Trump even less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan40 View Post
    You started the thread. Trump got more votes than any previous candidate, while you talk about why he didn't get enough. The fact is Biden's count is fiction. In the middle of the night the dems inserted enough unverifiable mail in ballots to steal the election. Discussion of Trump's mistakes is stupid. It is because he is who he is that he got so much done with minimal help.

    minimal help and massive resistance augmented by constant ridicule and second guessing from every available mainstream outlet.

    every.fucking.day.
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    Did some of you go down the list and read some of these numbers? Trump did not just lose with independents 54-41.
    How Groups Voted in 2020 | Roper Center for Public Opinion Research

    Self described moderates voted for Biden 64% to 34%!

    How is a man politically viable when he loses the middle by that much?

    Compare...

    Bush 2000
    Independents 48%
    Moderates 45%

    Bush 2004
    Independents 48%
    Moderates 45%

    McCain 2008
    Independents 44%
    Moderates 39%

    Romney 2012
    Independents 50%
    Moderates 41%

    So Trump did worse than all of those other republican candidates. Even McCain who lost badly did better with those groups.
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