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    Reason behind the 3/5ths compromise

    I saw a comment on a conservative video in regards to the 3/5ths compromise. I wasn't sure how true it was. So, I'm posting it to see if I can get a congruent source on this info.
    The thing about the 3/5s compromise is that the south confederates wanted their slaves to count as a full person towards the census allowing the southern states to have more seats in the house. If this happened then the southern states would have such a large number of congressmen in the house that they could solidify slavery as a constitutional right. The union, wanting slaves to be free and be considered American citizens would have fell on their own sword if the confederates had their way. So to get around this, the 3/5s compromise was made. This way the union could have slaves count as people in the census (granted as 3/5s a person) without giving the confederates enough of a bump in the house to make slavery into constitutional law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crcook84 View Post
    I saw a comment on a conservative video in regards to the 3/5ths compromise. I wasn't sure how true it was. So, I'm posting it to see if I can get a congruent source on this info.
    The compromise was agreed to because without it the 13 original states would have been more like the 5 or 6 states making up the union.

    Southerners were worried and rightfully so that northern abolitionists would destroy their entire way of life.

    By the time of the founding the North was already becoming more dependent on industrialization and less dependent on agriculture which was heavily dependent on slavery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crcook84 View Post
    I saw a comment on a conservative video in regards to the 3/5ths compromise. I wasn't sure how true it was. So, I'm posting it to see if I can get a congruent source on this info.
    That's about the size of it plus to appropriate how much money each state owned the federal government.

    I might also add that without the 3/5ths compromise the South would have been under represented. The South was more rural and had a lower population than the North.

    We need something like that today. The Blue States and cities votes is reduced so that the Blue States and cities are more in line with the rural vote. Never happen of course but it would make sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quark View Post
    That's about the size of it plus to appropriate how much money each state owned the federal government.

    I might also add that without the 3/5ths compromise the South would have been under represented. The South was more rural and had a lower population than the North.

    We need something like that today. The Blue States and cities votes is reduced so that the Blue States and cities are more in line with the rural vote. Never happen of course but it would make sense.
    Most states I think already have this in their bicameral legislatures similar to the US Senate with a fixed number of senators in the State Legislature and house seats that grow with the population.
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    I remember a poster saying the South only wanted to count slaves as 3/5's of a person. I told them yes, but the North didn't want them counted at all. The poster refused to see the logic in the Compromise.
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    I just watched a video with Carol Swain by PragerU which addressed this issue. She said the 3/5ths compromise had nothing to do with a slave being only 3/5ths of a person. It had to do with slave states only being allowed to count 3/5ths of their slave population to go towards how many representatives they were allowed to have in congress. So, it's all in the framing. In that case, it doesn't seem as bad anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Felix Birdbiter View Post
    I remember a poster saying the South only wanted to count slaves as 3/5's of a person. I told them yes, but the North didn't want them counted at all. The poster refused to see the logic in the Compromise.
    Actually the slave states wanted blacks counted as full persons for the purpose of deciding which states would have the most representatives.

    Non slave states didn't want them counted at all.

    3/5's "persons" was the compromise between the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildrose View Post
    Actually the slave states wanted blacks counted as full persons for the purpose of deciding which states would have the most representatives.

    Non slave states didn't want them counted at all.

    3/5's "persons" was the compromise between the two.
    This was actually the entire slavery issue, how many Representatives each state would have depending on their population. Logically, not counting the slaves as citizens was the correct position to take. After all, slaves had no representation in Congress The North had no overwhelming reason to free the slaves as that would automatically increase the power of the Southern states. A little known fact is there were more Abolitionist organizations in the Southern States than in the North. There was no outcry in the Congress to free the slaves and Lincoln only did so (in the Southern States only) as a means to further disrupt the economy of the South. The last state to officially free its slaves was (wait for it) Delaware. It wasn't until the 13th Amendment was passed that we saw the end of slavery

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    The short answer is that the north insisted on the 3/5 compromise.

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