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    UK vax versus unvax statistics

    I haven't been keeping up on the technical aspect of the virus but this seems to be legit. Comments? Explanation?

    Vaccinated English adults under 60 are dying at twice the rate of unvaccinated people the same age


    https://gellerreport.com/2021/11/vac...same-age.html/

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    Link to data doesn't work use the one in post #3.
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    Load of bollocks….. the link won’t open as the server cannot be found.
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    Just tried it. Works for me. Fixed link in OP. Sorry.

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...nstatusengland
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    Quote Originally Posted by old dog View Post
    I haven't been keeping up on the technical aspect of the virus but this seems to be legit. Comments? Explanation?

    Vaccinated English adults under 60 are dying at twice the rate of unvaccinated people the same age

    https://gellerreport.com/2021/11/vac...same-age.html/

    Screen-Shot-2021-11-24-at-2.52.19-PM-1234x615.png

    Data is from:

    http://https://www.ons.gov.uk/people...nstatusengland
    You need to normalize by the number ( or percentage) of population that the graph lines are referring to. Time and time again people are making this mistake.

    Example.

    1,000,000 people

    Assume 90% are vaccinated. ( you can change this number to whatever the right number is. In some parts of the UK, 90% or more are vaccinated, depending on age)
    900,000 are vaccinated
    100,000 are unvax

    Death rate is 3 people per 100,000 or 30 per 1,000,000

    20 comes from a vaxed population of 900,000 people. 10 come from an unvaxed population of 100,000 people.


    Probability of death of vaxed is 20/900,000 or 0.000022.

    Probability of death of unvaxed is 10/100,000 or 0.0001 .

    In other words, the unvaxed are (0.0001/0.000022) or 4.5 times more likely to die than the vaxed.

    Arithmetic.

    It's hard.

    Exercise for the student:
    Anyone can redo the arithmetic with different numbers if that age group is not 90% vaxed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Call_me_Ishmael View Post
    You need to normalize by the number ( or percentage) of population that the graph lines are referring to. Time and time again people are making this mistake.

    Example.

    1,000,000 people
    900,000 are vaccinated
    100,000 are unvax

    Death rate is 3 people per 100,000 or 30 per 1,000,000

    20 comes from a vaxed population of 900,000 people. 10 come from an unvaxed population of 100,000 people.


    Probability of death of vaxed is 20/900,000 or 0.000022.

    Probability of death of unvaxed is 10/100,000 or 0.0001 .

    In other words, the unvaxed are (0.0001/0.000022) or 4.5 times more likely to die than the vaxed.

    Arithmetic.

    It's hard.

    Exercise for the student:
    Anyone can redo the arithmetic with different numbers if that age group is not 90% vaxed.
    So, the unvaxed have a 99.99% survival rate. As opposed to a 99.9978% survival rate for the beloved vaxxed.

    Seems like a perfect reason to round up the unvaxed and put them into camps where they can be forced to take the vax.
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    So the difference is: Are we looking at deaths per 100,000 of the vaxed or unvaxed population or deaths per 100,000 of the entire population.

    I haven't figured out which one they're using.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative Libertarian View Post
    So, the unvaxed have a 99.99% survival rate. As opposed to a 99.9978% survival rate for the beloved vaxxed.

    Seems like a perfect reason to round up the unvaxed and put them into camps where they can be forced to take the vax.
    Be my guest. I've never advocated that anyone get vaxed. I simply analyzed data to find bullshit.


    Stop the vaccine mandates. Use facts about constitutional freedoms. The 1905 SCOTUS ruling is obsolete. New technologies can provide for public safety AND protect the constitutional freedoms of those who refuse the vax. Use of easily disproven fearmongering antivax porn will kill our chances to stop the mandates.


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    Quote Originally Posted by old dog View Post
    So the difference is: Are we looking at deaths per 100,000 of the vaxed or unvaxed population or deaths per 100,000 of the entire population.

    I haven't figured out which one they're using.
    It's why you need to find original data and check and cross-check various sources. I didn't do it here because I've done it 2 or 3 times for the UK and always find similar results. I'm not making any claims here other than the proper way to analyze data. Feel free to plug in your own numbers and set your hair on fire.


    Stop the vaccine mandates. Use facts about constitutional freedoms. The 1905 SCOTUS ruling is obsolete. New technologies can provide for public safety AND protect the constitutional freedoms of those who refuse the vax. Use of easily disproven fearmongering antivax porn will kill our chances to stop the mandates.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Call_me_Ishmael View Post
    Be my guest. I've never advocated that anyone get vaxed. I simply analyzed data to find bullshit.
    I never said that you did advocate that. But, there are people that do and some are on this forum.

    The reality is that there is a 99.99% survival rate for the horrible, knuckle-dragging unvaccinated.
    Last edited by Conservative Libertarian; 11-25-2021 at 08:53 AM.
    I never called you a VAXhole. You ASSumed that I did. Your self-ASSumed guilt is your problem and not mine.

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    Talking about death numbers and percentages is the trick. The slight of statistical hand.

    I still to this day do not know anyone, personally, who has died to Covid 19.

    I know 3 people who have had strokes after taking the vaccine. One died, one is in a wheelchair recovering and one got a clotbuster just in time and is okay. I know one woman who had an abortion when her child was deformed (took the vaccine), and, another woman who is also pregnant that at 31 years of age - was just brought into emergency for seizures (took the vaccine). I know 3 beyond those who are suffering from migraines, that did not suffer from migraines previously. (all vaccinated).

    I know several people who refused the vaccination, and were terminated from their jobs.

    I know an enormous amount of people who took jab(s) under duress of their keeping their jobs.

    I know quite a few people who will not take the next series of jabs, who had previously taken the jabs.

    Six ways of Kevin Bacon. Do that math.
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