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    Alec Baldwin and the recent shootings

    I am not much of a fan of Alec Baldwin--his leftist views truly do alienate me--but, in all fairness, his recent shooting of two people (one of whom died) does not appear to have been his fault.

    The "prop gun" that he used was supposed to have been checked by several people--several of them!--before it was ever used.

    As of the moment, no charges have been filed in connection with this matter.

    If any charges are filed, they should probably be directed toward these people who were charged with inspecting the gun.

    Negligent homicide might be appropriate...

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    why was there a real bullet on the set, much less in a gun

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    Real ammo is sometimes used in certain situations depending on the script. But realize that even blanks are real ammo.

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    NO NO NO! The only responsibility is ALEC'S. No matter if someone 'trained' handed him a fully loaded gun and said it was 'cold'. You NEVER take someone else's word that a gun is UNLOADED. You check it yourself! Every fucking time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brat View Post
    NO NO NO! The only responsibility is ALEC'S. No matter if someone 'trained' handed him a fully loaded gun and said it was 'cold'. You NEVER take someone else's word that a gun is UNLOADED. You check it yourself! Every fucking time!
    Is this the typical procedure among the actors' community?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brat View Post
    NO NO NO! The only responsibility is ALEC'S. No matter if someone 'trained' handed him a fully loaded gun and said it was 'cold'. You NEVER take someone else's word that a gun is UNLOADED. You check it yourself! Every fucking time!
    Exactly right. First law of gun safety, you personally check the weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    Is this the typical procedure among the actors' community?
    It IS among the shooter's community. Perhaps you could go to your local gun range and fire off a few.
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    Does a "blank" look different that a regular bullet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fall River View Post
    Does a "blank" look different that a regular bullet?

    Well from what ive read, its the job of the Armourer to make the blanks.

    As explained to me elsewhere, its supposed to go like this:

    Take the bullet out, empty the powder out. If you just need a round of ammo that looks real, you then remove the spigot pin from the primer. Place the bullet back. In a movie close up, this looks like a live round, but with no primer pin or powder, nothing happens when you pull the trigger.

    If you want a bang and a flash, you leave the primer pin in, and leave the bullet out. When you fire the gun theres a bang and a flash. However, some guns cant cope with rounds with no bullet, especially automatic loaders. So the armourer puts the bullet back in place


    If the bullet was placed back, in theory, it should stay put. However its possible the bullet will dislodge and move up the barrel and get stuck. If thats the case, the next round to be fired will eject the stuck bullet and with some force, enough to kill. If the second blank is also faulty, both bullets will be ejected with sufficient force to kill someone close up

    Feel free to correct or contradict me if you are a gun expert.
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    Whose Finger Pulled the Trigger...?!?

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