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    Adolescent Boys at Higher Risk of Hospitalization From Pfizer Vaccine Than From COVID

    This article came out yesterday on Children's Health Defense's Defender:

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    According to a new pre-print study, boys between the ages of 12 and 15, with no underlying medical conditions, were four to six times more likely to be diagnosed with vaccine-related myocarditis than they were to be hospitalized with COVID.

    By Megan Redshaw
    Healthy boys may be more likely to be admitted to the hospital with heart inflammation from the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID vaccine than with COVID itself, according to a new pre-print study.
    U.S. researchers found boys between the ages of 12 and 15, with no underlying medical conditions, were four to six times more likely to be diagnosed with vaccine-related myocarditis than they were to be hospitalized with COVID.
    To identify children with evidence of cardiac injury, the retrospective epidemiological assessment reviewed injury reports submitted between Jan.1 and June 18 to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) of adolescents between the ages of 12 and 17 who received an mRNA COVID vaccine.
    The researchers identified a total of 257 cardiac adverse events (CAE) using inclusion criteria that met the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) working case definition of myocarditis.
    The post-vaccination CAE rate was highest in 12- to 15-year-old boys following their second dose of Pfizer.

    Dr. Tracy Høeg, physician, epidemiologist and associate researcher at UC Davis, found the rate of myocarditis after two doses of Pfizer’s vaccine to be 162.2 cases per million for healthy 12- to 15-year-old boys, and 94 cases per million for healthy 16- to 17-year-old boys. The equivalent rates for girls were 13.4 and 13 cases per million, respectively.
    At current U.S. infection rates, the risk of a healthy adolescent being taken to the hospital with COVID in the next 120 days is about 44 per million, they said.

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    Adolescent Boys at Higher Risk of Hospitalization From Pfizer Vaccine Than From COVID | Children's Health Defense
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    To me, the myocarditis issue in young people has been my biggest hesitation with throwing support behind the vaccine issue. This is not normal by any means. Getting a vaccine should NOT cause a major malfunction in the heart, especially in young healthy individuals, when the objective is to stimulate an immune response.

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    I don't care which side of the fence you are on, you do not vaccinate healthy kids for a disease that won't hurt them!

    As a nation, we are already fully vaxxed. we have 75 million kids and young adults 18 and under. Skip it for them. For the most part, they have superb immune systems and do very well developing the best kind of immunity, natural immunity. 40 million of us have survived the disease, which means another 30 million have great natural immunity. (10 million redundant for kids). Then 200 million of us have, or are in process of, being vaxxed. That adds up to 305 million, over 90% either vaxxed or with natural immunity, or with the ability to get natural immunity without much risk.

    About 10% of America is illegal immigrants. Right now, they seem to be the fastest growing segment of our population, and the least likely to be vaccinated, and the 2 million coming in this year have high infection rates and low vax rates. I see Lyin Biden sending them everywhere, but I haven't heard a peep about them being sent to hospitals. I wonder why?

    Last time I took a math course, 90% plus 10% equals 100%.

    OK, dinosaur uses general numbers and general numbers are always wrong. There seems to be about 30% of hospital workers who are not vaxxed. But think about that. If 30% of health care workers survive almost two years in a plandemic without getting vaxxed, I would say they probably don't need a vax. And forcing them to retire or find alternate work in the middle of a "health crisis"? Talk about stupid insanity!

    Work on monoclonal antibodies, ivermectin, HCQ, and any other cure that might help the unfortanate few that do have serious issues with the disease. Make it so they can develop natural immunity and survive. I am AOK with Gilead making good profit on a life saving drug. I am AOK with using veternarian medicines if they work on people too. Why stigmatize a drug? For political purposes, that's why. If you look at what Lyin Biden and crew are doing, everything they are doing is wrong. Why is that? For political purpose, that's why.

    Protect the kids. They are our future. Parents, teach your kids; tell them they survived in spite of our government. Maybe they will grow up with a healthy skepticism of government.

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    Oh, and do the math. Pick any number you like. There are 75 million young people in America. Use a round number like 100 per million, just to make it easy. Vax 'em up, and you are going to have 7500 young people with serious heart issues that can be lethal or affect their future lifespan.

    7500 is not a small number. Sorta makes the 600 shooting deaths in Chicago every year pale in comparison.

    I'm old, at higher risk, and Mrs dinosaur has multiple "comorbidities". We are vaxxed. No way in hell do either of us want kids vaxxed.

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    Sorry, I don't want to take over the thread, but just for a reality check. Because of 600 shooting deaths, Chicago has zero, count 'em, zero gun retail stores.

    Chicago has 340K kids in their public schools. Using the same 100 per million heart issue caused by the vaccine, that is going to equate to 34 young adults with serious heart complications. "If it saves just one life ..." Yeah, right. Look at the link to see how many places there are in Chicago to get vaxxed.

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    For Lyin Biden and Lori Lightweight, I guess 600 needless deaths just isn't enough.

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    according to progs, boys are the enemy...this makes sense.
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    Statistics from pre-covid vaccine days. Are they different than statistics now?

    Occurrence and Features of Childhood Myocarditis: A Nationwide Study in Finland - PubMed

    I doubt if young healthy adolescents really need the vaccines but let's understand whether they are really being killed or injured by them and to what extent. Or is that being "pro-vax"?


    If someone wants to estimate the number of young men who would contract this illness in a year with or without the vaccine being involved, we can discuss how many of those might be close - say, 1 month- to a Covid vaccination event.
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    Stop the vaccine mandates. Use facts about constitutional freedoms. The 1905 SCOTUS ruling is obsolete. New technologies can provide for public safety AND protect the constitutional freedoms of those who refuse the vax. Use of easily disproven fearmongering antivax porn will kill our chances to stop the mandates.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Call_me_Ishmael View Post
    Statistics from pre-covid vaccine days. Are they different than statistics now?

    Occurrence and Features of Childhood Myocarditis: A Nationwide Study in Finland - PubMed

    I doubt if young healthy adolescents really need the vaccines but let's understand whether they are really being killed or injured by them and to what extent. Or is that being "pro-vax"?


    If someone wants to estimate the number of young men who would contract this illness in a year with or without the vaccine being involved, we can discuss how many of those might be close - say, 1 month- to a Covid vaccination event.
    No one?


    Well let's try this. I think this simple brain teaser will help to spur conversation.


    Dick thinks Jane can read his thoughts. So he conducts an experiment. Dick will pull blue balls from a jar randomly. Jane will pull red balls from a jar randomly. The exact time of each ball selection is recorded.

    At the end of the experiment, Dick analyzed the result. He noticed that whenever Jane pulled a red ball, Dick had pulled a blue ball before that.

    He concluded that when he pulled a blue ball, it caused Jane to reach in and pull a ball from her jar.

    Is Dick a good scientist or just trying to get a date with Jane?


    Stop the vaccine mandates. Use facts about constitutional freedoms. The 1905 SCOTUS ruling is obsolete. New technologies can provide for public safety AND protect the constitutional freedoms of those who refuse the vax. Use of easily disproven fearmongering antivax porn will kill our chances to stop the mandates.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Call_me_Ishmael View Post
    Statistics from pre-covid vaccine days. Are they different than statistics now?

    Occurrence and Features of Childhood Myocarditis: A Nationwide Study in Finland - PubMed

    I doubt if young healthy adolescents really need the vaccines but let's understand whether they are really being killed or injured by them and to what extent. Or is that being "pro-vax"?


    If someone wants to estimate the number of young men who would contract this illness in a year with or without the vaccine being involved, we can discuss how many of those might be close - say, 1 month- to a Covid vaccination event
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    I took a shot at it. The OP says

    The researchers identified a total of 257 cardiac adverse events (CAE)
    That's about what one would predict using the pre-vaccine statistics of Myocarditis for this age group in the US over a period of two months coinciding approximately with any date one chooses.... including the vaccine dates ( one month after first shot or one month after second shot)

    So, can someone show me how the rates of this disease for the adolescents has increased with vaccination status?
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    Stop the vaccine mandates. Use facts about constitutional freedoms. The 1905 SCOTUS ruling is obsolete. New technologies can provide for public safety AND protect the constitutional freedoms of those who refuse the vax. Use of easily disproven fearmongering antivax porn will kill our chances to stop the mandates.


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    We are nothing more than lab rats in a phase-3 clinical trials of a deadly vaccine. The purpose is to see just how effective the vaccine is at killing people. As information comes in the vaccine will become deadlier as new vaccine is made up.

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