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    We need some major discovery that will give batteries an order of magnitude longer life.


    Stop the vaccine mandates. Use facts about constitutional freedoms. The 1905 SCOTUS ruling is obsolete. New technologies can provide for public safety AND protect the constitutional freedoms of those who refuse the vax. Use of easily disproven fearmongering antivax porn will kill our chances to stop the mandates.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankenvoter View Post
    Why not let the market decide? If electric vehicles are so great people would buy them and use them forcing a need for charging stations but as always big brother knows best, and people who have a fetish of government get a thrill up their leg thinking about yet one more mandate.

    I remember hearing a guy from Brazil on the radio talking about their gas stations down there as compared to ours where we have a choice of unleaded, unleaded, or unleaded.

    He said down there you can get leaded gas if you want, compressed natural gas, diesel, ethanol, all of which had their plusses and minuses and why people would choose one over the other.

    Natural gas is great for large vehicles like school buses on level surfaces but it sucks trying to get them uphill, it doesn't have the pulling power of diesel which is great for that purpose but some people like the immediate start of a gas engine and not waiting on a diersel to warm up the glow plugs first but either way you go to a gas station down there and you have CHOICE, unlike here where "big brother knows best" and people who have a fetish for government and the know it all one size fits all control they offer makes them sleep better at night knowing the decision has been made for them, almost admitting in the process they're too stupid to try and make that decision themselves.

    No, I'm not calling you stupid, I'm calling any government mandate loving big brother fetishinado stupid, and nosy as in mind your own business, let me mind mine.

    He finished with "we have choice, you dont, but yet we're the "backwards" people according to you". I'm almost ready to leave the country and trade the "freedom" I have here to do what I'm told for the freedom I'd have down there as long as I can pay for it and since what I do for a living is a worldwide need, I'll learn latin quick once I'm immersed in it, communist government lovers can stay right here where they belong.
    I was being sarcastic, the Biden administration has said almost nothing on how we will power all these charging stations. Shutting coal stations certainly isn't the answer.

    I agree, let the free market decide. But comparing a relatively small country to the US seems not to be a good comparison. Do we need stations like what was described to you? We don't need leaded gasoline, we just don't. We don't need ethanol either. Ethanol makes no sense as didn't GWB. We use corn to make fuel using oil to make the fertilizer to grow the corn, makes no sense.

    So here is an idea, come up with an economical common sense replacement for the gasoline engine and you will make millions. Go.
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    Straight vegetable oil is an infinite source of fuel and the exhaust is water vapor. The world is full of idiots. The governments are just going with the impossible infrastructure, the killing of jobs and the inability to travel for agenda 21 reasons. WTFU people!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Freewill View Post
    The answer is so easy and seems to be the one the administration is pursuing.

    All that is needed is to install charging stations. Make it mandatory to install them during new construction. Having a place to plug in your electric car is as short sighted as we need be, the rest will take care of itself. Shutting down coal stations is a start.
    It isn't the charging station problem. It is a power source issue. Source...not method.

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    hydrogen is plentiful n highly combustible

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freewill View Post
    The answer is so easy and seems to be the one the administration is pursuing.

    All that is needed is to install charging stations. Make it mandatory to install them during new construction. Having a place to plug in your electric car is as short sighted as we need be, the rest will take care of itself. Shutting down coal stations is a start.
    The power grid will not support an all ev transportation model. The power plants canít generate that much electricity, the grid canít deliver it.

    Batteries are not the answer. Battery technology hasnít advanced that much and is near its limit. Production and manufacturing improvements are where the advances have come and they have reached their limit. And batteries are an eco nightmare.

    capacitors are not an option, no way.

    Hydrogen fuel cells are a possible route but they have been on the drawing board for 40 years. I donít know if itís politics or a technology issue keeping them out of cars. Maybe hydrogen cells give cars great range so people still have freedom to travel and the eco people donít like that freedom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dummy View Post
    Straight vegetable oil is an infinite source of fuel and the exhaust is water vapor. The world is full of idiots. The governments are just going with the impossible infrastructure, the killing of jobs and the inability to travel for agenda 21 reasons. WTFU people!!!!


    Not raining on veg oil for diesels but it might be an infinite source in that as long as we have vegetables we can make oil. But could we do in sufficient enough quantities to power the all the cars and trucks? I really do not think so. How much vegetables would that take to do?

    Sure it is a good deal for those who have diesels and have some sort of access to used vegetable oil. One gallon of vegetable oil of Giant Eagle's brand is today 4.44/gallon. Which even with Biden's increase is 25 percent higher than diesel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilson2 View Post
    The power grid will not support an all ev transportation model. The power plants can’t generate that much electricity, the grid can’t deliver it.

    Batteries are not the answer. Battery technology hasn’t advanced that much and is near its limit. Production and manufacturing improvements are where the advances have come and they have reached their limit. And batteries are an eco nightmare.

    capacitors are not an option, no way.

    Hydrogen fuel cells are a possible route but they have been on the drawing board for 40 years. I don’t know if it’s politics or a technology issue keeping them out of cars. Maybe hydrogen cells give cars great range so people still have freedom to travel and the eco people don’t like that freedom.
    then all is lost.

    What powered Apollo 11 to the moon and back?


    From the web:

    While there have been some impressive advances in recent years, a team of researchers have created a supercapacitor film that could replace the need for a battery altogether within the next five years.Graphene-Based Supercapacitors Could Lead To Battery-Free Electric Cars

    Graphene-Based Supercapacitors Could Lead To Battery-Free Electric Cars Within 5 Years | IFLScience
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freewill View Post
    So here is an idea, come up with an economical common sense replacement for the gasoline engine and you will make millions. Go.
    I'm a fan of the jet powered tennis shoes. Still a few bugs to work out but we're getting there.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Freewill View Post
    Not raining on veg oil for diesels but it might be an infinite source in that as long as we have vegetables we can make oil. But could we do in sufficient enough quantities to power the all the cars and trucks? I really do not think so. How much vegetables would that take to do?

    Sure it is a good deal for those who have diesels and have some sort of access to used vegetable oil. One gallon of vegetable oil of Giant Eagle's brand is today 4.44/gallon. Which even with Biden's increase is 25 percent higher than diesel.
    How much fossil fuel does it take to charge your electric vehicle fantasy?

    Farmers are being paid not to farm their land. Paid not to grow corn. How much fuel is not being produced at a cost? Hemp seed oil can be harvested every 4 months. Plus it grows where other crops won’t.

    You know how much a remote diesel generator electric charging station requires to charge a vehicle? I bet you don’t, and don’t care because you are drinking the totalitarian kool aid. Wake the fuck up, when has a government mandate ever benefited mankind? Hitler is calling you to the train station, don’t be late.
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