Attempting re-entry: Britain gets ready to rejoin the space race

[UKSmartypants]

Australia was populated by convicts, doubtful many were saboteurs, our government and judicial governors sent the undesirables there, of course there were more undesirables than we could cope with, an unstoppable epidemic of criminality.

In 1870 40% of Australians were born there, the old criminals that landed at Van Diemans island that got a ticket of leave and went to New South Wales if they were lucky.

Yes Australia was the Brit choice of destination to launch Black Arrow space rockets.

Well, lets be clear. Most of the 'convicts' were petty criminals, there were cases of kids under 16 being deported for stealing an apple, or a silver spoon.

The POINT was that we needed people to go and populate the new land we owned, and tough, working class 'criminals' streetwise and able to survive were the ideal material. So anyone of that ilk was basically singled out to help populate the new country, under the guise of 'punishment'.

Many countries with colonies did this, France in particular. France transported convicts to Devil's Island and New Caledonia in the 19th and early-to-mid 20th centuries. Devil's Island, a French penal colony in Guiana, was used for transportation from 1852 to 1953. New Caledonia became a French penal colony from the 1860s until the end of the transportations in 1897; about 22,000 criminals and political prisoners (most notably Communards) were sent to New Caledonia.

The most famous transported prisoner is probably French army officer Alfred Dreyfus, wrongly convicted of treason in a trial in 1894, held in an atmosphere of antisemitism. He was sent to Devil's Island. The case became a cause célèbre known as the Dreyfus Affair, and Dreyfus was fully exonerated in 1906.

[Authentic]

Why? You can hardly launch rockets on densely populated english soil, the likelihood of a large chunk falling into a town or village and causing damage and fatalities is quite high. Australia has thousands of square miles of Nowhere, so the bits can fall back to earth and only kill the odd wallaby or koala.

And anyway, Australia is part of the commonwealth, its our soil.

Why not launch from Merseyside? Who would you lose, some scousers? They won't walk alone.

[UKSmartypants]

Why not launch from Merseyside? Who would you lose, some scousers? They won't walk alone.

yes but look at the fuss they made about Hillsboro. Talk about drama queens.

[Authentic]

yes but look at the fuss they made about Hillsboro. Talk about drama queens.

Hillsborough was bad, but the Liverpool supporters thought that it would make everyone forget about Heysel.

[Authentic]

For those who don't know about Hillsborough, here it is. Try to ignore the great soccer and pay attention to the left end of the field. Almost 100 people are dying there, close to the same amount as at the 2003 Station Fire and the 2021 Surfside, FL tower collapse.



Hillsborough disaster - Wikipedia

[UKSmartypants]

Hillsboro was the fault of the idiot copper that opened the gate to let a load of people in free, but then the same thing just happened at the Euro finals. You always get idiots trying to get in free, climbing fences, etc. Thats why they had a six foot fence round the pitch at Hillsboro, to stop the morons invading it. If football fans didn't behave like animals, there wouldn't be a problem

The classic response is "oh they aren't real football fans, were the real fans and we wouldn't do that sort of thing"

Which is funny, because when you point at ISIS and tell a Moslem they are also moslems, you get pretty much exactly the same reply, word for word. Yet they are reading from the same Koran. And its the same game.

[Neo]

Hillsboro was the fault of the idiot copper that opened the gate to let a load of people in free, but then the same thing just happened at the Euro finals. You always get idiots trying to get in free, climbing fences, etc. Thats why they had a six foot fence round the pitch at Hillsboro, to stop the morons invading it. If football fans didn't behave like animals, there wouldn't be a problem

The classic response is "oh they aren't real football fans, were the real fans and we wouldn't do that sort of thing"

Which is funny, because when you point at ISIS and tell a Moslem they are also moslems, you get pretty much exactly the same reply, word for word. Yet they are reading from the same Koran. And its the same game.

Apparently he was found not to be an idiot

The former South Yorkshire police chief superintendent David Duckenfield has been found not guilty of gross negligence manslaughter more than 30 years after he commanded the police at the 1989 FA Cup semi-final at Hillsborough between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest, at which 96 people died.28 Nov 2019

[UKSmartypants]

Apparently he was found not to be an idiot

The former South Yorkshire police chief superintendent David Duckenfield has been found not guilty of gross negligence manslaughter more than 30 years after he commanded the police at the 1989 FA Cup semi-final at Hillsborough between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest, at which 96 people died.28 Nov 2019

Ofc he was. Juries are highly unlikely to find senior coppers guilty of anything. Like backs and muzzies, they have a get out of jail free card.

Remember Charles De Menedez? The perfectly innocent Brazilian tourist wrongly identified by Cressida Dicks (she who is now top cop at the Met) as a terrorist, and pinned down by two coppers in a Tube trainand shot in the face at point-blank range?

Dicks then conducted first a cover up, followed by a disinformation campaign, then she tried to smear the Menéndez family, and then she attempted to interfere wiht the official enquiry and succeeded by non-cooperation in enabling a whitewash. To this day she refuse to name the SO19 officer who executed Menéndez, thus denying the family justice.

Numbers;

as of 2016, the were over 1000 convicted criminals working for the police, some in uniform. The met alone has 400 criminals working for them. in the 10 years prior to 2016, 4000 coppers resigned to avoided being investigated and/or prosecuted. In 2016 there were 660 coppers in jail, for every offence you can think of, from rape and paedophilia, to stalking ,selling drug, GBH and Burglary.

The Uk police are corrupt top down and incompetent bottom up, and dishonest top to bottom.

[Big Wheeler]

The same police force(South Yorkshire) that was involved in the Hillsborough affair was also involved in the Miners Strike and at the so called Battle of Orgreave a few miles away.Without going into the rights and wrongs of the dispute in general,this incident saw mounted police officers charge striking miners using remarkable violence and making many arrests.When this came to court not a single miner was convicted and the police were found to have colluded and falsified statements and testimony.Naturally there has never been a comeback and requests for a public enquiry have been denied.

[Neo]

Ofc he was. Juries are highly unlikely to find senior coppers guilty of anything. Like backs and muzzies, they have a get out of jail free card.

Remember Charles De Menedez? The perfectly innocent Brazilian tourist wrongly identified by Cressida Dicks (she who is now top cop at the Met) as a terrorist, and pinned down by two coppers in a Tube trainand shot in the face at point-blank range?

Dicks then conducted first a cover up, followed by a disinformation campaign, then she tried to smear the Menéndez family, and then she attempted to interfere wiht the official enquiry and succeeded by non-cooperation in enabling a whitewash. To this day she refuse to name the SO19 officer who executed Menéndez, thus denying the family justice.

Numbers;

as of 2016, the were over 1000 convicted criminals working for the police, some in uniform. The met alone has 400 criminals working for them. in the 10 years prior to 2016, 4000 coppers resigned to avoided being investigated and/or prosecuted. In 2016 there were 660 coppers in jail, for every offence you can think of, from rape and paedophilia, to stalking ,selling drug, GBH and Burglary.

The Uk police are corrupt top down and incompetent bottom up, and dishonest top to bottom.

You got to be a Brit to get this one.