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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    Well then, please feel free to explain just where I have missed the mark.
    Preconceived beliefs have nothing to do with ERRORS in translation, and the introduction of SPURIOUS text.

    You don't have to believe to be a scientist, you just have to do the experiment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Authentic View Post
    If older means more reliable, then KJV is the king of reliability when compared to newer versions, James.
    Are you speaking to someone else?

    I ask, since my name--either my UserName, or my real name--is not "James."

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonsqtr View Post
    Preconceived beliefs have nothing to do with ERRORS in translation, and the introduction of SPURIOUS text.
    What, exactly, is your basis for determining "ERRORS in translation" (Caps in original), or "the introduction of spurious text"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Authentic View Post
    Who gets to determine serious Bible student status?
    A person who has attended a theological seminary would certainly fit this definition.

    So would anyone who has not done so, but has used a variety of reference books--i.e. textbooks--including an exhaustive concordance; one or more Greek-English lexicons; one or more commentaries, from Bible scholars; an interlinear New Testament; a Greek New Testament; etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    A person who has attended a theological seminary would certainly fit this definition.

    So would anyone who has not done so, but has used a variety of reference books--i.e. textbooks--including an exhaustive concordance; one or more Greek-English lexicons; one or more commentaries, from Bible scholars; an interlinear New Testament; a Greek New Testament; etc.
    Or they could read the King James Bible cover to cover.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Authentic View Post
    Or they could read the King James Bible cover to cover.
    Well, that would certainly be a good way to achieve religious indoctrination (which, of course, is hardly tantamount to a broad theological education).
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    A serious question:

    Since we have already established that the King James Version is far from being the first version of the Bible in English (which is a trait that you seem to consider especially important), just why do you revere it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    Well, that would certainly be a good way to achieve religious indoctrination (which, of course, is hardly tantamount to a broad theological education).
    That's what I said too. One has to study.

    We have 100 different versions of the Bible, they don't all say the same thing, not by a long shot.

    Bible translators throughout history have had agendas, not all of them have been benign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonsqtr View Post
    That's what I said too. One has to study.
    Study, yes.

    Including biblical textbooks. (Just reading the Bible--with no understanding, whatsoever, of the culture of the country involved at the time--can be highly misleading.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Authentic View Post
    What makes those [earlier] manuscripts "better"?
    We simply do not have the original manuscripts.

    But it is better to rely upon a copy of a copy, of a copy, of a copy, of a copy, than to rely upon a copy of a copy, of a copy, of a copy, of a copy, of a copy, of a copy, of a copy, of a copy, of a copy, of a copy, of a copy.

    The latter simply has more opportunity for errors--both intentional and unintentional. (As to the former, some scribes would give their exegeses; and sometimes, they even interpolated this into the actual text. This is what is known as a scribal gloss.)

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