A French boat has been spotted ramming a British vessel.

[Oceander]

One mustn’t forget the enormous burden the U.K. had fighting wars on all fronts during WW2, the financial cost made Britain bankrupt.

Churchill courted the United States like a schoolboy with his first girlfriend into joining the war, but it took Japan to flatten Pearl Harbour.

When America joined the war victory was assured, the “Lend Lease” agreement actually reduced Britain into the poor man of Europe because we had no gold reserves left, America had everything. The countries who were invaded by Germany still had Gold reserves around the world…… Britain had nothing.

Even the British companies in America were sold off by auction as part of the lend lease agreement.

Margaret Thatcher in the 80s excitedly announced “We have paid off the finances of the War agreements to the United States by a final payment of £30billion.

Most Americans think of our little island as a of no consequence, our American cousins did not allow our British scientists to know the inner workings of setting a nuclear bomb off, nor the rocket science to deliver it. Because of this we had to build our own Nukes, also our own missile system (blue streak) which cost the U.K. billions whilst we were still recovering from the bankruptcy of war.

This must seem a trifle bad sportsman to bring all of this up, but! The American government impoverished us and what you see now is the result.

God Bless America.

The U.S., for whatever reason (it escapes me), appears to have intentionally used the Lend-Lease program as a way of beggaring the U.K.

It's a sad fact. Perhaps Roosevelt felt that he wanted to have all of Europe under his thumb after the war, and figured that most of Continental Europe would be easy enough to control after having been wiped out by the war itself, but that the U.K. needed that extra little bit of leverage because, unlike the Continent, it was never invaded by the Nazis/Axis powers, and was never bombed into oblivion.

[Neo]

The U.S., for whatever reason (it escapes me), appears to have intentionally used the Lend-Lease program as a way of beggaring the U.K.

It's a sad fact. Perhaps Roosevelt felt that he wanted to have all of Europe under his thumb after the war, and figured that most of Continental Europe would be easy enough to control after having been wiped out by the war itself, but that the U.K. needed that extra little bit of leverage because, unlike the Continent, it was never invaded by the Nazis/Axis powers, and was never bombed into oblivion.

The population of America was 133.4million in 1941, whereas the population of the U.K. was 41millions, the taxation on the working population today is 23% of weekly wages.

• Random tax/NI amount of £43,000
  Income tax (PAYE) is £6,086 (£507 per month) - 14% of salary
• National Insurance (N.I) is £4,011 (£334per month) - 9% of salary
• Total taxes are £10,097 (£841 per month) - 23% of salary
• You are a basic rate tax payer.

But the U.K. is still hit by local taxation.

For water, fire, waste management, local government we pay a community charge, in my area it’s £147 per month, for luxuries we pay a VAT payment on every item, except food and clothing, everything else I has a tax percentage of the item of 20%

Its a wonder how the British people clawed itself out of the last century.

[MrMike]

Next up: Truffle Wars

[MrMike]

Click on the video on link.
https://news.sky.com/story/french-bo...aters-12298301


Its hotting up.

btw... SKY pulled the video (it's not longer accessible at least by me. said page does not exist).

[Neo]

btw... SKY pulled the video (it's not longer accessible at least by me. said page does not exist).

It’s ok Mike, Uksmartypants put up another link, try that one.

[MrMike]

It’s ok Mike, Uksmartypants put up another link, try that one.

Cool! I wanted to see it! This will end up as an interesting episode in UK-French history.

[Neo]

Cool! I wanted to see it! This will end up as an interesting episode in UK-French history.

here is the link UKsmartypants posted
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...e-harbour.html



Mike….you’ve lived here, you know what is going to happen, us Brits will pay these little frog bastards off, but! In the long run we have them and the rest of the EU fishermen over a barrel and each country will be put inside the barrel (navy shag)

In a few short years we won’t have to give our fishing waters to the EU. We will to be sure…”fuck them off”

[Hermannsdenkmal]

Yes.

Well after years of our allies fighting, and getting slaughtered.

That was their choice, and these wars occurred before the current UN coalitions existed. Frankly, it was better back then, when countries weren't obliged to feed their soldiers into wars that were started by other nations. Case in point- the UK and Australia were forced or coerced into sending soldiers to fight in Iraq, when that war had nothing to do with Britain.

Had America entered EITHER WW I or WW II earlier, millions of lives may have been saved.

Ha. Had the USA not entered WW!, millions of lives would have been saved. The inaptly named Spanish Flu originated in the United States, and spread throughout Europe so easily BECAUSE there was a war going on that required the mass movement of people and cargo. The Spanish Flu killed more human beings than the actual war did.

We literally left Great Britain all ALONE to face the full might of the NAZI's (Until they so foolishly turned to take on the Soviets....)

Wow. No part of this statement is correct whatever. You think we entered WW2 because Hitler invaded the USSR? And Britain decided to declare war on Germany, not the other way around. The Germans offered the UK a peace deal, which would have resulted in an agreement to let Germany eradicate Communism in Europe. Britain turned them down, and instead decided to play footsies under the table with Stalin, which signaled to the Germans that an unannounced alliance was being made between the UK and communist Russia.

Sure, we "helped" and, most likely, our entry into both wars was the deciding factor.

Helped doesn't need to be in quotation marks. Without the United States supplying money and materials to Great Britain and Russia, along with our US Armed Forces fighting, the war wouldn't have ended in May, 1945, and allied victory wouldn't have been a sure thing. You forget or simply don't know that the UK in particular was kept supplied by the US' manufacturing industry, which fell apart only several decades later.

But, our allies suffered and died, while we drug our feet.

That's their fault for declaring war on Germany. Not ours.

As such, I just think it a bit arrogant (and perhaps, hypocritical) of AMERICA to always expect friends and allies to jump up and join us every time we go to war.

Of course it is. What you're forgetting is the fact that the PEOPLE of America and Britain haven't supported any of the wars mentioned in this discussion! It was the LEADERSHIP of the US and UK that wanted war, not the actual citizens, and that goes all the way back to when GB entered the first world war. Without the endless propaganda of intelligence agencies creating fake news (Saddam has nuclear capabilitites for example) the good citizens of Europe and the USA would likely never support the garbage wars of the elites. Because that's who benefits from every war, the elite warmongers who start rattling their sabers when their profits aren't increasing fast enough.

[UKSmartypants]

That was their choice, and these wars occurred before the current UN coalitions existed. Frankly, it was better back then, when countries weren't obliged to feed their soldiers into wars that were started by other nations. Case in point- the UK and Australia were forced or coerced into sending soldiers to fight in Iraq, when that war had nothing to do with Britain.

absolutely incorrect. The trigger to hostilities in 1914 were a set of interlocking treaties between various countries, known as the Mutual Defense Alliances, that obliged them to come to each others defence - Germany was obliged to support Austria. Russia was obliged to defend Serbia. France was obliged to help Russia, the UK obliged to help France. The moment Philip Princip fired his gun, WW1 was inevitable and unstoppable.

Ha. Had the USA not entered WW!, millions of lives would have been saved. The inaptly named Spanish Flu originated in the United States, and spread throughout Europe so easily BECAUSE there was a war going on that required the mass movement of people and cargo. The Spanish Flu killed more human beings than the actual war did.
Wow. No part of this statement is correct whatever. You think we entered WW2 because Hitler invaded the USSR? And Britain decided to declare war on Germany, not the other way around. The Germans offered the UK a peace deal, which would have resulted in an agreement to let Germany eradicate Communism in Europe. Britain turned them down, and instead decided to play footsies under the table with Stalin, which signaled to the Germans that an unannounced alliance was being made between the UK and communist Russia.

1. oohh nice bit of selective fact picking there. We declared war because you invaded Poland, whom we had a mutual defense treaty with. Hitler miscalculated, he knew of the Treaty, and figured we wouldnt act on it. He tried his luck, and got it wrong

2.The 'peace deal' offered was basically surrender and capitulation . It was an insult and never going to be accepted by any self respecting englishman.




Plus, all the nonsense you post about the UK 'leaping into bed with the communists' is garbage, There was a treaty between Uk France and russia signed long before called The Triple Entente. In any case, in 1939 Russia was no threat to the Uk. Germany was.

[UKSmartypants]

Now heres an illuminating bit of information:


".....the French boats have disqualified themselves from licences by over-fishing, fishing juvenile fish, and fishing far too often, according to current fisheries legislation. French boats are required, under the ‘deal’ with the UK, to show detailed lists of their fishing activity and are refusing to do so as they breach the conditions. Ironically, as a distinguished economist has pointed out, one of the reasons for the delay in Jersey giving out permits is the refusal of the French authorities to provide any information on catches landed in French ports as required by the Trade and Co-operation Agreement (TCA). But the EU says our refusal to provide real time information on goods being shipped to Northern Ireland is a breach of the TCA and they are taking us to court. The UK should of course simply mirror this legal action, but no, oh dear no, Whitehall would not hear of it, it might chill the diplomatic atmosphere."