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    Closing arguments in the Derek Chauvin trial

    I saw part of the prosecution attorney's closing arguments, this morning, in the Derek Chauvin trial. And they were quite good, I thought.

    One caveat: They were really much too long, in my opinion. (They reminded me of the loquaciousness of a substitute pastor, recently, who went about 25 or 30 minutes beyond the usual time for a Sunday sermon.)

    I have heard just a bit of the defense's rebuttal; and the defense attorney has done fairly well, in my opinion--given what he has to work with.

    In the end, I think Chauvin will probably be convicted: partly because he is apparently guilty, and partly because the jurors--being merely human--are likely to take into account all the cities that would burn, and the general anarchy that would reign, if he were acquitted. (The latter, of course, is not a good reason for conviction; but it will probably enter into the equation, realistically.)

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    I feel he should face a little bit of punishment, but given the situation and all the details and mitigating factors, the only criminal statutes that exist to charge him with are too harsh.

    I mean if there was such a thing as "fourth degree murder", but there's not. It falls somewhere in the grey zone between, reckless endangerment, manslaughter, and being accidental.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    I saw part of the prosecution attorney's closing arguments, this morning, in the Derek Chauvin trial. And they were quite good, I thought.

    One caveat: They were really much too long, in my opinion. (They reminded me of the loquaciousness of a substitute pastor, recently, who went about 25 or 30 minutes beyond the usual time for a Sunday sermon.)

    I have heard just a bit of the defense's rebuttal; and the defense attorney has done fairly well, in my opinion--given what he has to work with.

    In the end, I think Chauvin will probably be convicted: partly because he is apparently guilty, and partly because the jurors--being merely human--are likely to take into account all the cities that would burn, and the general anarchy that would reign, if he were acquitted. (The latter, of course, is not a good reason for conviction; but it will probably enter into the equation, realistically.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    One caveat: They were really much too long, in my opinion. (They reminded me of the loquaciousness of a substitute pastor, recently, who went about 25 or 30 minutes beyond the usual time for a Sunday sermon.)
    I half liked the last substitute pastor I heard. She is a seminary student and her sermon was 10 minutes!

    I half disliked it because she is a millennial and she peppered the sermon with pop culture references I presume her generation will get.

    She is also heavy into social justice based theology.
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    How is Chauvin "apparently guilty"? He didn't cause Floyd's death.

    If the thugs riot, it is not on the jury. Like Pilate, they can wash their hands. Pilate though did make his decision at least partially to avert a riot.
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    I don't have a dog in this fight, but was he pinning the guy by the neck or the shoulder? Anyone know? Seems if he was leaning on the guys actual neck, he'd die within less than a minute, not nine. I don't have an opinion on guilt; the details are complicated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    I saw part of the prosecution attorney's closing arguments, this morning, in the Derek Chauvin trial. And they were quite good, I thought.

    One caveat: They were really much too long, in my opinion. (They reminded me of the loquaciousness of a substitute pastor, recently, who went about 25 or 30 minutes beyond the usual time for a Sunday sermon.)

    I have heard just a bit of the defense's rebuttal; and the defense attorney has done fairly well, in my opinion--given what he has to work with.

    In the end, I think Chauvin will probably be convicted: partly because he is apparently guilty, and partly because the jurors--being merely human--are likely to take into account all the cities that would burn, and the general anarchy that would reign, if he were acquitted. (The latter, of course, is not a good reason for conviction; but it will probably enter into the equation, realistically.)

    So true about the jurors who would no doubt be targeted themselves if they accquitted him witjhout much government protection as we learned this summer.
    Lucky for them that by all available data he is guilty as sin. But if this was acloser call you are correct the jurors would likely convict because of the terrorism. No other word for it. In addition they terrorized that Marine's home DESPITE his arrest which was not necessary. If the DNC doesn't address this it will also blow up in their face. And it should.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swedgin View Post
    My prediction: Cities will burn any way. That is what the goons want. That is what the goons want to do. That is what their master wants of them.

    They will comply with their base desires.
    I fear that as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinnity View Post
    I don't have a dog in this fight, but was he pinning the guy by the neck or the shoulder? Anyone know? Seems if he was leaning on the guys actual neck, he'd die within less than a minute, not nine. I don't have an opinion on guilt; the details are complicated.
    It 'was' horrible to watch as it was happening...... Click to enlarge


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