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    World Series: 2002 and 2020

    Both of these World Series were won by Southern California based teams. Anaheim Angels in 2002 and Los Angeles Dodgers in 2020.

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    Rumor has it the next world series will be in China

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kodiak View Post
    Rumor has it the next world series will be in China

    More likely if MLB ever expands again, they will put a team in Havana, Cuba. Best baseball town in they America's.


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    Dodgers and Padres are tied in the top of the 10th inning. This could be a long night.
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    Dodgers won 11-6 in the 12th inning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Authentic View Post
    Dodgers won 11-6 in the 12th inning.


    How many pitching changes did you have to endure to watch that one? One of the reasons I quit watching MLB was the effects of having 11-12 pitchers on the roster instead of the old 9. It just increased the decrease in action that is baseball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    How many pitching changes did you have to endure to watch that one? One of the reasons I quit watching MLB was the effects of having 11-12 pitchers on the roster instead of the old 9. It just increased the decrease in action that is baseball.

    Problem with MLB as a whole, is the lack of action. Game is dull, slow moving, and has been expanded into so many places where it doesn't succeed.

    Remember the great three-peat Oakland A's teams, and their manager Dick Williams who switched pitchers almost every other batter. That is a problem with baseball, no more Earl Weavers or Tommy Lasorda's, who understood the game, played hunches and succeeded over long periods of time managing by their wits. Most of the managers do their jobs by a textbook. Right hand pitcher goes against right hand batter, if lefty is sent to the plate, pitcher is automatically changed. Also, there are almost no true pitchers left in the league today. If your starting pitcher can get through the 5th inning, he is out of there and a fresh arm is brought in.

    Long gone are the days when a pitcher went the distance, lord save us if he made it to the 7th. Give me a Koufax, Gibson, Carlton, Drysdale any game. Bob Gibson? Tim McCarver was his catcher in St.Louis and always said he AND the manager were terrified to go out on the mound and pull him. Trailing by 5-runs in the 4th in one game, they finally had to do it (one of Gibby's rare off days), so they both went to the mound and Gibson's comment was epic. He said "where the hell have you two been all day, ya should have yanked me out of here in the 2nd inning." No more colorful characters like him either. If some "punch & judy" hitter was at the plate fouling off pitch after pitch, Gibson would get angry, in his mind according to McCarver, he would think - "ya want 1st base THAT bad - here ya go" and thump him in the back with a fastball and strike out the next batter. Carlton, Koufax? Guys never even saw the hitter at the plate, all they did was play catch out there. Drysdale, they never even saw the ball wizzing past em.

    MLB is comprised of two tiers. N.Y Yankees; Boston Red Sox; N.Y. Mets; Los Angeles Dodgers; San Francisco Giants; Chicago Cubs; St.Louis Cardinals; KC. Royals, Cincinnati Reds and Atlanta Braves. All the rest of the teams are mere cannon fodder for these top tier baseball cities. Not saying ya can't have fun at the game in some of the lower tier cities, Pittsburgh; White Sox; Brewers; Orioles; Indians; Angels; Marlins; Diamondback; Astros; etc., but the league always wants one of those top tier teams in the World Series, not the wild card clubs. A Colorado Rockies - Pittsburgh Pirates series isn't going to draw anybody who isn't a hard core fan.

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    Cincy is top tier and Astros are lower tier? Reds last appeared in the World Series 31 years ago and won it. Astros have made three WS appearances in that time frame and won once, in 2017.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Authentic View Post
    Cincy is top tier and Astros are lower tier? Reds last appeared in the World Series 31 years ago and won it. Astros have made three WS appearances in that time frame and won once, in 2017.

    By reputation, the Reds are a top tier club, in fact, they are the very first professional baseball team.

    Houston? Think they cheated their way to a WS title, but few fans recognize or care about the Texas teams across the country. MLB is a very exclusive club, and to make it into the top tier, you have to do something that grabs fans hearts. The Florida Marlins (Miami Marlins), won two World Series as a wild card team, 1997 and 2002, nobody noticed. In fact, when they finally moved out of the NFL Dolphins Stadium to downtown Miami (a move which cost them around 15,000 season ticket holders), they put those two World Series trophies away in a vault and don't even let the fans see them. The management of the Marlins also destroyed every media guide which had the Florida Marlins logo on it, they wanted no part of the history of the old Florida Marlins. Only a tiny metal-like flag on the left field foul pole identifies the team as having won two World Championships. They could win five in a row and never average more than 5,000 fans a game. Certainly not top tier.

    Tampa Bay, which is a much better baseball town then Miami, has only made the Series once and lost. Team plays in St.Petersburg. Toronto won back-to-back, and nobody remembers them. It isn't the length of time a team has been successful or unsuccessful, it is a money game, and those top tier clubs make the money. The Indians and Pirates have been around since the beginning, nobody pays attention to them either.

    But, Yankees; Dodgers; Giants; Red Sox? Cubs; Those are the very top of the heap of top tier teams. Good or bad, everyone wants to see them, and everyone wants to see them win.

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    Tampa Bay has appeared in the World Series twice, 2008 and 2020. They lost both.
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