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    Oh well.
    As long as everybody has a "god" to forgive them they kill all they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rutabaga View Post
    my god's bigger than your god...

    smh

    Yep, thats basically what its all about at the bottom level, and always will be i n NI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Authentic View Post
    This is nothing. Wait until July 12. I doubt that them Orange Order Apprentice Boys can stay on Shankill Road.

    Absolutely, The Orange Day parade is notorious. Its where the protestants celebrate Prince William of Orange 's victory over King James II at the Battle of the Boyne in 1690. The Proddies march through catholic areas to rub their noses in it, so the Catholics shoot and petrol bomb them. Riots ensue.

    Its like I said, these people can hold a grudge 400 years with no effort. And about things that happened long before the British got thier.

    Williams troops were half English and Scottish Protestants, the rest being Dutch Infantry, and mercenaries from various countries, including ireland, Holland and germany. They were better trained and equipped with the latest high tech flintlock muskets.

    James had several regiments of French troops, but most of his main infantry was provided by Irish Catholics, with some English and Scottish Jacobites also present. The Jacobites' Irish cavalry, who were recruited from among the dispossessed Irish gentry, proved themselves to be high calibre troops during the course of the battle. However, the Irish infantry contingent, predominantly peasants who had been pressed into service, were not trained soldiers. They had been hastily trained, poorly equipped, and only a minority of them had functional muskets. In fact, some of them carried only farm implements such as scythes. Furthermore, the Jacobite infantry who actually had firearms were all equipped with the obsolete matchlock musket. The French and Irish troops wore a white rallying mark, as a compliment to the Bourbons and to distinguish them from the Williamites.


    So the proposition that the English fought only on one side doesnt hold water, patrick. The armies were organised on sectarian grounds, not race, nationality or class.
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    some of the most heinous things done by man are done in the name of god...

    i dont think god would approve of that...


    god is not a "religious" entity...religion is a man made concept to control and divide.

    god is not such a creature.
    "The nose, knows"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rutabaga View Post
    some of the most heinous things done by man are done in the name of god...

    i dont think god would approve of that...


    god is not a "religious" entity...religion is a man made concept to control and divide.

    god is not such a creature.

    Thats right, i agree, ive always said the problem with religion is it wasn't invented by god.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by UKSmartypants View Post
    Thats right, i agree, ive always said the problem with religion is it wasn't invented by god.....
    remember, religion trumped politics/nations/kings etc. in every way for a very, very long time...

    its about CONTROL.

    and control negates free will...
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    and one other thing,,if religion were removed from the equation, something else would fill the void that would control/divide just as well...


    like race/sex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rutabaga View Post
    and one other thing,,if religion were removed from the equation, something else would fill the void that would control/divide just as well...


    like race/sex.

    Absolutely. Stalin and Hitler both recognised this, which is why they targetted and oppressed religion figures and religion. They replaced religion with nationalism, which was easier to direct and control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rutabaga View Post
    and one other thing,,if religion were removed from the equation, something else would fill the void that would control/divide just as well...


    like race/sex.

    Environmentalism is the new religion. Do not doubt me on this. Humans are a tribal lot and need a hierarchical ideal to strive to (worship, if you will). A new one has been provided. It is now Gaia.
    Last edited by El Guapo; 04-09-2021 at 12:45 PM.
    What point in time are 'masks' going to start working?


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    Quote Originally Posted by UKSmartypants View Post
    Absolutely. Stalin and Hitler both recognised this, which is why they targetted and oppressed religion figures and religion. They replaced religion with nationalism, which was easier to direct and control.
    They found some old notes from JFK admiring Hitler. I find the stunning words from JFK about "Ask not what your country can do for you..." to bear a similar theme to Hitlers nationalistic approach.
    "I told you the economy was going to tank under Trump". "Yeah you did. Pre Pandemic". "It was going to tank even without the Pandemic". "Uh-huh. Trumps economy was hitting it out of the park Pre Pandemic." <---My cut and paste time saving signature - for all the doom and gloom predictors who will try to rewrite history.

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