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    Sturgeon orders EU flag to be flown from Scottish government buildings.

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    Nicola Sturgeon orders EU flag to be flown from Scottish government buildings daily

    Opponents of First Minister say demand showed her 'obsession' with constitutional issues and 'makes no sense' in light of Brexit


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    England should declare war on Scotland. And kill every one of them.

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    Nothing as stupid as biting the hand that feeds you.

    1. My understanding is that Scotland takes more money from the UK than it contributes. Is that still correct?

    2. Does Ms Sturgeon believe she can get a better payout from the EU?

    3. Besides money, what are the other big issues? Scotland thinks it needs unfettered immigration to grow? Some great great great English grandpa killed her great great great Scottish grandpa?

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    in order to find out who owes who, youd need to split the oil and oil/gas fields along a line that is ethically right not even concidering which has or will produce the most. and THEN you start by establishing the basis for how much scotland owes england for tin and coal tax
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    Quote Originally Posted by dinosaur View Post
    Nothing as stupid as biting the hand that feeds you.

    1. My understanding is that Scotland takes more money from the UK than it contributes. Is that still correct?

    2. Does Ms Sturgeon believe she can get a better payout from the EU?

    3. Besides money, what are the other big issues? Scotland thinks it needs unfettered immigration to grow? Some great great great English grandpa killed her great great great Scottish grandpa?
    1. Yep, scotland spend £18B a year more than it receives, and the shortfall is made up by the English, and it amounts to a subsidy of about £1200 per head for each scotsman. This is known as "The Barnett Formulae"

    2, She relying on it, because without Scotland would have to cut its spending by £18B a year, equivalent to its entire Local Government Budget. That would entail decades of harsh austerity and cuts. You have to understand this isnt about Independence, its about getting rid of the hated English. The SNP are a bunch of anti-english racists and to the small number of such people who have effectively seized power any price is worth paying, including bankrupting scotland and sending the entire population into a poverty that will make Somalia look rich and affluent.

    3. There arent any issues, Scotland does very well out of the Union, and wouldnt be where it is today without being under the protection and largesses of the English.



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    in order to find out who owes who, youd need to split the oil and oil/gas fields along a line that is ethically right not even concidering which has or will produce the most. and THEN you start by establishing the basis for how much scotland owes england for tin and coal tax

    Well first of all...what oil money? The Scottish oil fields are near enough shut down. When Saudi flooded the world with cheap oil and the price dropped to $40 a barrel, the Scottish fields became uneconomic. The rigs have been towed in and scrapped and the wells capped. Indref #1 was predicted on the fact the £18B a year income shortfall would be made up by the share of the oil revenue, but thats now all but gone.

    On the other hand, Scotlands share of the National debt will easily strip it of all its secret reserves (the SNP have been stashing away money intended to pay for vaccination and pandemic recovery). They will lose the thousands of jobs that are a consequence of the UK military being in Scotland, from the RAF and naval bases like Lossiemouth, plus all the other work thats done is Scotland which would be switched to England like boat building.

    Scotland doesn't have a central bank or gold reserves, so it cant print its own money, and the Eu has said it'll be ten years before Scotland can join Eu and it'll have to take the Euro. Meanwhile, they'll have to use Sterling, which means it has no control over its economy and interest rates. As a result, Moodys Credit Agency has rated Scotland as F, which means 'junk', so they will pay through the nose for credit.

    Scottish indy is driven by blind racism, and damn the consequences, which are going to be dire for Scotland. The Union was formed because Scotland was bankrupt in 1699 and came grovelling to us to bail them out.

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    Sounds like the English rejoinder to Scotland should be very simple: "Careful what you wish for; if we're in a particularly peckish mood some day, we just might give it to you."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oceander View Post
    Sounds like the English rejoinder to Scotland should be very simple: "Careful what you wish for; if we're in a particularly peckish mood some day, we just might give it to you."

    Ive no doubt if the last indyref had included the English in its voting , they would have been roundly kicked out the union post haste. Sturgeon and the SNP are doing their best to piss off the English and make themselves unwelcome and hated.

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    Another example of the mealy mouthed Sturgeon type anti English racism has surfaced today by the unmasking of a troll who abused "Captain Tom" in a grossly offensive tweet.His message was sent under a Scots independence slogan.Joseph Kelly,35,of Glasgow did not attend a preliminary court hearing.
    "Captain Tom"died a few weeks ago at the age of 100 after tramping round his garden to try to raise money for the NHS.His intention was to raise £1000 before his birthday in April.He kept going and raised over £32million ultimately.

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    Another thing the Scottish Nationalists overlook is that it was not only the English who gave the Scots a hard time around 1650 to the later 1700s.Religion was the cause.The English and the lowland Scots were protestants whereas the highland Scots were catholics;the lowlanders were not backward in their hostility towards the highlanders.
    Ironically modern Scots put forward the kilt and bagpipes as emblems of their culture and national pride.In the day lowland Scots would have slit the throats of highland Scots they came across using either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Wheeler View Post
    Another example of the mealy mouthed Sturgeon type anti English racism has surfaced today by the unmasking of a troll who abused "Captain Tom" in a grossly offensive tweet.His message was sent under a Scots independence slogan.Joseph Kelly,35,of Glasgow did not attend a preliminary court hearing.
    "Captain Tom"died a few weeks ago at the age of 100 after tramping round his garden to try to raise money for the NHS.His intention was to raise £1000 before his birthday in April.He kept going and raised over £32million ultimately.

    Heres the dick

    Glasgow man, 35, charged over 'offensive' Captain Tom Moore tweet | Daily Mail Online



    He tweeted 'The only good Brit soldier is a deed one, burn auld fella, buuuuurn' Capn Tom was a perfectly harmless old boy, a man with medals who fought for his country and was still doing good deeds at 100. Only a dick would make such a mean spirited, mendacious, perfidious tweet about a stranger like this.

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