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    Agents....

    There is a legal concept which I think needs to be expanded. The police have many legal restrictions on their actions. For example, I cannot, as a police officer, go into your home for the purpose of searching, and arrest you for finding contraband without a warrant. If your landlord goes in when you're not home to replace a light fixture and sees contraband and calls the police, they can get a warrant based on his information.

    However, if the police are suspicious and send the landlord in under the pretext of replacing a light fixture and he sees contraband even with a warrant it would be an illegal search because he was acting not as a landlord but rather as an agent of the police.

    I think we've reached the point where the media has become an agent to various government agencies and entities and have, in fact, become agents of the Deep State and the Democrat Party. We should question whether or not as agents of the Deep State they should enjoy the protections for the press noted in the Constitution.

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    We "extremists" have been saying for years, that there is no "deep state". The deep state simply is, "Follow the Money", and the answers are obvious. We have also been saying that those who believe the "deep state" is some "secret" entity, while ignoring instead of acknowledging the truth, this is why we are at the point that we are at. Yes, democrats are responsible, but so are republicans even more-so, as painful as that may sound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    We "extremists" have been saying for years, that there is no "deep state". The deep state simply is, "Follow the Money", and the answers are obvious. We have also been saying that those who believe the "deep state" is some "secret" entity, while ignoring instead of acknowledging the truth, this is why we are at the point that we are at. Yes, democrats are responsible, but so are republicans even more-so, as painful as that may sound.
    I don't find you to be an extremist. You are painful but not in the way you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrickt View Post
    There is a legal concept which I think needs to be expanded. The police have many legal restrictions on their actions. For example, I cannot, as a police officer, go into your home for the purpose of searching, and arrest you for finding contraband without a warrant. If your landlord goes in when you're not home to replace a light fixture and sees contraband and calls the police, they can get a warrant based on his information.

    However, if the police are suspicious and send the landlord in under the pretext of replacing a light fixture and he sees contraband even with a warrant it would be an illegal search because he was acting not as a landlord but rather as an agent of the police.

    I think we've reached the point where the media has become an agent to various government agencies and entities and have, in fact, become agents of the Deep State and the Democrat Party. We should question whether or not as agents of the Deep State they should enjoy the protections for the press noted in the Constitution.
    But of course this is the job of the courts and having the strength to pursue matters on appeal all the way to the Supreme Court. Failing that, when a law is so bad politicians are lobbied and hopefully we vote into power those who will change statute law so that the judges are not perverse/politically biased. This is how Mr Trump was leading the country. He was at the very heartbeat of the American people and such a threat the Dems had to criminally fiddle the elections supported by the MSM and FOX and now, apparently, Tucker Carlson. I feel so shocked and let down by Tucker I will find it hard to believe anyone.Its very, very sad indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrickt View Post
    There is a legal concept which I think needs to be expanded. The police have many legal restrictions on their actions. For example, I cannot, as a police officer, go into your home for the purpose of searching, and arrest you for finding contraband without a warrant. If your landlord goes in when you're not home to replace a light fixture and sees contraband and calls the police, they can get a warrant based on his information.

    However, if the police are suspicious and send the landlord in under the pretext of replacing a light fixture and he sees contraband even with a warrant it would be an illegal search because he was acting not as a landlord but rather as an agent of the police.

    I think we've reached the point where the media has become an agent to various government agencies and entities and have, in fact, become agents of the Deep State and the Democrat Party. We should question whether or not as agents of the Deep State they should enjoy the protections for the press noted in the Constitution.
    Good concept.

    But what are the unanticipated consequences?

    As agents of the gubmint they can't be sued.

    Which is a different kind of protection, to be sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeuemmaimai View Post
    I have no cable no local TV and I rarely watch any news outside of OAN and Newsmax

    Then you are better informed than a vast majority of this country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    We "extremists" have been saying for years, that there is no "deep state". The deep state simply is, "Follow the Money", and the answers are obvious. We have also been saying that those who believe the "deep state" is some "secret" entity, while ignoring instead of acknowledging the truth, this is why we are at the point that we are at. Yes, democrats are responsible, but so are republicans even more-so, as painful as that may sound.
    The Deep State is diversified, most are wealthy and powerful ...... and they have their useful idiots.

    We in the USA now live in a soft dictatorship.
    It evolved over many years but now it is out in the open for all to see.
    I call it a Techno-Oligarch Dictatorship.
    As with all dictatorships, as resistance grows, so will the measures of severity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nonsqtr View Post
    Good concept.

    But what are the unanticipated consequences?

    As agents of the gubmint they can't be sued.

    Which is a different kind of protection, to be sure.
    Of course, they can be sued just like police officers can be sued. District Attorneys, Judges, and other oh so special people have immunity. The police do not. What police officers don't have is deep pockets. Oh, and it's spelled government. And, I don't anticipate any consequences any worse than what we have. The media will hate us so that will just stay the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrickt View Post
    There is a legal concept which I think needs to be expanded. The police have many legal restrictions on their actions. For example, I cannot, as a police officer, go into your home for the purpose of searching, and arrest you for finding contraband without a warrant. If your landlord goes in when you're not home to replace a light fixture and sees contraband and calls the police, they can get a warrant based on his information.

    However, if the police are suspicious and send the landlord in under the pretext of replacing a light fixture and he sees contraband even with a warrant it would be an illegal search because he was acting not as a landlord but rather as an agent of the police.

    I think we've reached the point where the media has become an agent to various government agencies and entities and have, in fact, become agents of the Deep State and the Democrat Party. We should question whether or not as agents of the Deep State they should enjoy the protections for the press noted in the Constitution.
    The media has the constitutional right to write whatever it likes. The media isn't the agent of anyone. They are simply biased. It is up to you to determine whether what they write has any merit. The last thing you want is for government to censor the media. You however have the right to criticize what you get from the media and you should.

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