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    Quote Originally Posted by JustPassinThru View Post
    There is a new trend, among these Woke soy-boi Nu-Male "journalists." They seem to know nothing of the subject matter of which they write; they seem to be oddly incongruous in gender...feminized males with scraggly beards and Nu-Male grimaces; or masculine wombyn with weight issues and deep scowl lines. But what they bring to their publication, is their sick Hard-Left POLITICS.

    Over at JackBaruth.com, Jack's brother Mark, who writes as BarkM, for whatever reason, touches on the ignorance of today's auto journalists...who allow class-envy and hatred guide them, even as they ignore realities about Economies of Scale and priorities of buyers for inexpensive cars.

    Everything Thats Wrong With Automotive Journalism, Summed Up Nicely In One Twitter Thread - Riverside Green

    The point of the screed was that the Woke Nu-Male was bellyaching about the wide variety of high-priced auto models, and that there are so few inexpensive models. Ignoring, as I said, the reality that someone buying a cheap car is buying JUST...WHEELS. Someone buying a Porsche, is buying an image - and someone buying a Ferrari is buying another image, which to his mind is different.

    Point is, this young punk knows nothing about cars, about buyers, about manufacturing costs and how they're spread...about breakevens and economies of scale...but he KNOWS CLASS STRUGGLE. Or thinks he does.

    Like that Scientific American writer knows nothing about science, but sure knows what is good for us, his lessers...the Deplorables.
    What someone should be bitching about is that with all of the "required" crap on new vehicles, it makes them way too expensive, impossible to repair after a couple years, and super expensive to maintain...

    ABS, 27 airbags, traction control, computerized emissions management...
    All that shit is expensive!!!!!!!!
    I remember the Geo Metro, cheap as dirt and could get 47mpg... They were so well optimized in the cheap transportation niche that they are still holding value today.
    GRRRRRRRRRR!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physics Hunter View Post
    I wish the ultra-Libs and the sold out for dough "scientists" would quit pissing on a discipline that I actually take seriously.
    It's sad and frustrating to watch, I'm sure. It's frustrating for me, and I'm no physicist.

    If you can stand a personal anecdote...

    Science Fair projects were mandatory for our kids from 4th-6th grades. The proper routine, starting with hypothesis, was so drummed into their heads they started rolling their eyes every time they heard it.
    *Brag alert: One of my kid's went to county, then state competition. Believe it or not, testing which type of water - pond, stock tank, or tap - would bring the best results for tadpoles. (That one was kinda interesting to follow.)
    Another, that received a "A" was, "Which ball bounced the highest. (a golf ball, btw.)

    Point being on that part, is how well they followed the proper standard, and presentation. Didn't matter much WHAT it was, but how well-done it was, and if they followed through.

    Lots of those kids, for that age, had pretty cool experiments: Which batteries last the longest? Which diapers really ARE the most absorbent? Does water with salt in it boil faster, or not? Stuff like that.

    Point being, while they may not have grown up to be physicists, for any of those students who were paying the slightest attention, they did learn the discipline, and can now spot the nonsense (non-science) for what it is.

    For whatever it's worth, they did take that much with them, and was well worth it.

    *As a reward, they got to the Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntington, AL. (Yeah, the parents had to pay, and wouldn't you know we happened to have a 4th, 5th, AND 6th-grader at the time. lol.) They had the time of their lives! And it helped all they'd learned stick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2cent View Post
    It's sad and frustrating to watch, I'm sure. It's frustrating for me, and I'm no physicist.

    If you can stand a personal anecdote...

    Science Fair projects were mandatory for our kids from 4th-6th grades. The proper routine, starting with hypothesis, was so drummed into their heads they started rolling their eyes every time they heard it.
    *Brag alert: One of my kid's went to county, then state competition. Believe it or not, testing which type of water - pond, stock tank, or tap - would bring the best results for tadpoles. (That one was kinda interesting to follow.)
    Another, that received a "A" was, "Which ball bounced the highest. (a golf ball, btw.)


    Point being on that part, is how well they followed the proper standard, and presentation. Didn't matter much WHAT it was, but how well-done it was, and if they followed through.

    Lots of those kids, for that age, had pretty cool experiments: Which batteries last the longest? Which diapers really ARE the most absorbent? Does water with salt in it boil faster, or not? Stuff like that.

    Point being, while they may not have grown up to be physicists, for any of those students who were paying the slightest attention, they did learn the discipline, and can now spot the nonsense (non-science) for what it is.

    For whatever it's worth, they did take that much with them, and was well worth it.

    *As a reward, they got to the Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntington, AL. (Yeah, the parents had to pay, and wouldn't you know we happened to have a 4th, 5th, AND 6th-grader at the time. lol.) They had the time of their lives! And it helped all they'd learned stick.
    Generally, THANKS! Somehow that is deeply encouraging.

    Marshall is Cool. I did some work in Huntsville, and got to do a quick walk-thru there, I wish I had an entire day.

    As to the bolded: Both of those science projects are great. The ball bounce one is nice and cleanly empirical measurement. The Tadpole one is clearly stronger, attempting to get an empirical measurement in the complex (multi-variable) and messy science of Biology.
    Nicely done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physics Hunter View Post
    Generally, THANKS! Somehow that is deeply encouraging.

    Marshall is Cool. I did some work in Huntsville, and got to do a quick walk-thru there, I wish I had an entire day.
    Oh, I bet you would've lavished every moment. The kids got to do the 'Space Drop'. (Scary, but fun.) Experience anti-gravity. Attempt to do a "Moon Walk," which came out, according to them, hilarious. Oh, I dunno. It was a school trip that'll stay with them forever.
    Heck, I bet YOU would've loved to be on it. They got 3 days of all that, with no responsibilities, except to behave themselves.
    As to the bolded: Both of those science projects are great. The ball bounce one is nice and cleanly empirical measurement. The Tadpole one is clearly stronger, attempting to get an empirical measurement in the complex (multi-variable) and messy science of Biology.
    Nicely done.
    Why, thank you. It was an awkward experiment, as he had to keep them as close as possible to their 'true environment' in glass jars, so he could keep a close eye on their progress. One by the stock tank, one by the pond, one inside the house, is the best we could come up with, so went with that. The kid was pretty dedicated to that project. It surprised me.

    It did him a whale of good, is all I can say. (Okay, me, too. My husband and I loved getting involved in our kids' projects. To the point where I asked the teachers just HOW involved we should we get. We'd throw hints, but not do it for them. If they needed some holes drilled in a board, Mr. 2 would show them how, but do much of that, himself. Gnome mean?)

    One of my favorites was my daughter having to make an Indian Wampum hut. Oh, m' goodness, we went all out. That was the best of fun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2cent View Post
    Oh, I bet you would've lavished every moment. The kids got to do the 'Space Drop'. (Scary, but fun.) Experience anti-gravity. Attempt to do a "Moon Walk," which came out, according to them, hilarious. Oh, I dunno. It was a school trip that'll stay with them forever.
    Heck, I bet YOU would've loved to be on it. They got 3 days of all that, with no responsibilities, except to behave themselves.

    Why, thank you. It was an awkward experiment, as he had to keep them as close as possible to their 'true environment' in glass jars, so he could keep a close eye on their progress. One by the stock tank, one by the pond, one inside the house, is the best we could come up with, so went with that. The kid was pretty dedicated to that project. It surprised me.

    It did him a whale of good, is all I can say. (Okay, me, too. My husband and I loved getting involved in our kids' projects. To the point where I asked the teachers just HOW involved we should we get. We'd throw hints, but not do it for them. If they needed some holes drilled in a board, Mr. 2 would show them how, but do much of that, himself. Gnome mean?)

    One of my favorites was my daughter having to make an Indian Wampum hut. Oh, m' goodness, we went all out. That was the best of fun!
    3 Days... They got the VIP tour. Nice!

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    Science? I thought catastrophic global climate change was all based on flawed computer models. Is that "science". They've been wrong for over 50 years. I'd sure hate to go to a Doctor like that. What about the "science" of forestry management in blue States, the science of gun control, socialism versus capitalism, and my all time favorite.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustPassinThru View Post
    There is a new trend, among these Woke soy-boi Nu-Male "journalists." They seem to know nothing of the subject matter of which they write; they seem to be oddly incongruous in gender...feminized males with scraggly beards and Nu-Male grimaces; or masculine wombyn with weight issues and deep scowl lines. But what they bring to their publication, is their sick Hard-Left POLITICS.

    Over at JackBaruth.com, Jack's brother Mark, who writes as BarkM, for whatever reason, touches on the ignorance of today's auto journalists...who allow class-envy and hatred guide them, even as they ignore realities about Economies of Scale and priorities of buyers for inexpensive cars.

    Everything Thats Wrong With Automotive Journalism, Summed Up Nicely In One Twitter Thread - Riverside Green

    The point of the screed was that the Woke Nu-Male was bellyaching about the wide variety of high-priced auto models, and that there are so few inexpensive models. Ignoring, as I said, the reality that someone buying a cheap car is buying JUST...WHEELS. Someone buying a Porsche, is buying an image - and someone buying a Ferrari is buying another image, which to his mind is different.

    Point is, this young punk knows nothing about cars, about buyers, about manufacturing costs and how they're spread...about breakevens and economies of scale...but he KNOWS CLASS STRUGGLE. Or thinks he does.

    Like that Scientific American writer knows nothing about science, but sure knows what is good for us, his lessers...the Deplorables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Physics Hunter View Post
    3 Days... They got the VIP tour. Nice!

    Y'all sound like you did really well. Congrats.
    Thanks. Jury's still out, but we tried.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riderboy View Post
    Science? I thought catastrophic global climate change was all based on flawed computer models. Is that "science". They've been wrong for over 50 years. I'd sure hate to go to a Doctor like that. What about the "science" of forestry management in blue States, the science of gun control, socialism versus capitalism, and my all time favorite.....

    CNN guest: 'When a woman is pregnant, that is not a human being inside of her'
    All very good points. It got so bad I was afraid to go to a doctor. I'm squeamish about docs, anyway, but to go to one younger than I? After reading what you know to be utter bull from so many supposed "experts?"

    Um, hmm...
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    So a pseudo-science magazine endorses Joe Camel. Big surprise. What modern magazine isn't left-leaning? National Geographic is one of the worst, as well.

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