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    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Same.

    Frankly his actions have impacted my life quite a bit more.

    That said the Epstein stuff is getting crazier and crazier.
    Quite. What Dershowitz has done w/his life is his business. What Fauci has done, however, is mine/ours ...literally.
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    Years ago, when I was a police officer, I was accused of having had a sexual relationship with an underage girl. I was at work and was called to the chief's office. When I walked in a woman from Child Welfare who I had known for years and with whom I had a good working relationship was glaring at me.

    The chief proceeded to say that a young girl, a client of the case worker, had complained that I'd been having sex with her. The case worker quickly corrected the chief and said the girl hadn't complained, we were having an affair, and the girl thought I would get a divorce and marry her.

    Of course, I said I had no idea what she was talking about.
    "She gave me dates and times and places she met you to have sex."
    "Well, I'm glad to hear that."

    I got up and left and returned with my daytimer. "Compare your dates and times and places with my record of appointments."
    "Of course, you wouldn't write in your daytimer that you were meeting a child for sex."

    The chief interrupted and said, "Pat's right. If his daytimer puts him at other places with witnesses at any of the dates and times and places you've given then the accusation is false."

    The chief also said he would have other avenues of investigation pursued.

    It ended with zero evidence of the alleged affair being true. Some of the dates and times were when I was in other cities attending meetings and clerks in some of the places, low-class motels, identified my picture and laughed when asked if I'd ever rented a room in their motel.

    I was cleared, the girl admitted it wasn't true, and the welfare worker never apologized. She told people I'd "covered it up".

    I can't imagine what it would be like in today's atmosphere. Brett Kavanaugh can. Justice Thomas can. Obviously, Dershowitz knows and is frightened. He doesn't have a reputation of being a lech but he is viewed as a traitor by the leftists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrickt View Post
    Years ago, when I was a police officer, I was accused of having had a sexual relationship with an underage girl. I was at work and was called to the chief's office. When I walked in a woman from Child Welfare who I had known for years and had a good working relationship was glaring at me.

    The chief proceeded to say that a young girl, a client of the case worker, had complained that I'd been having sex with her. The case worker quickly corrected the chief and said the girl hadn't complained, we were having an affair, and the girl thought I would get a divorce and marry her.

    Of course, I said I had no idea what she was talking about.
    "She gave me dates and times and places she met you to have sex."
    "Well, I'm glad to hear that."

    I got up and left and returned with my daytimer. "Compare your dates and times and places with my record of appointments."
    "Of course, you wouldn't write in your daytimer that you were meeting a child for sex."

    The chief interrupted and said, "Pat's right. If his daytimer puts him at other places with witnesses at any of the dates and times and places you've given then the accusation is false."

    The chief also said he would have other avenues of investigation pursued.

    It ended with zero evidence of the alleged affair being true. Some of the dates and times were when I was in other cities attending meetings and clerks in some of the places, low-class motels, identified my picture and laughed when asked if I'd ever rented a room in their motel.

    I was cleared, the girl admitted it wasn't true, and the welfare worker never apologized. She told people I'd "covered it up".

    I can't imagine what it would be like in today's atmosphere. Brett Kavanaugh can. Justice Thomas can. Obviously, Dershowitz knows and is frightened. He doesn't have a reputation of being a lech but he is viewed as a traitor by the leftists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oceander View Post
    Daytimers can sometimes be the only thing standing between one and complete catastrophe.
    In civil law, records kept routinely as part of a business are assumed to be true and accurate absent evidence to the contrary. Later, when the District Attorney decided to frame me my Daytimer again saved me. I strongly advise people keep a detailed daytimer.

    Of course, I never dreamed I'd need to keep them for 35 years or more. A few years after retiring I got rid of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrickt View Post
    In civil law, records kept routinely as part of a business are assumed to be true and accurate absent evidence to the contrary. Later, when the District Attorney decided to frame me my Daytimer again saved me. I strongly advise people keep a detailed daytimer.

    Of course, I never dreamed I'd need to keep them for 35 years or more. A few years after retiring I got rid of them.

    Hmmm, yes and no. The main thing is that records maintained in the ordinary course of a business are generally treated as admissible evidence under an exception to the hearsay rule, and can therefore generally be used as evidence for the truth of their contents. A fact-finder is not, however, generally bound to treat the contents as true if, for whatever reason, they doubt the credibility of the person who made the records.

    That being said, business records are invaluable and, absent some specific reason to think they were falsified when created, most business records tend to be given a lot of weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patrickt View Post
    Years ago, when I was a police officer, I was accused of having had a sexual relationship with an underage girl. I was at work and was called to the chief's office. When I walked in a woman from Child Welfare who I had known for years and with whom I had a good working relationship was glaring at me.

    The chief proceeded to say that a young girl, a client of the case worker, had complained that I'd been having sex with her. The case worker quickly corrected the chief and said the girl hadn't complained, we were having an affair, and the girl thought I would get a divorce and marry her.

    Of course, I said I had no idea what she was talking about.
    "She gave me dates and times and places she met you to have sex."
    "Well, I'm glad to hear that."

    I got up and left and returned with my daytimer. "Compare your dates and times and places with my record of appointments."
    "Of course, you wouldn't write in your daytimer that you were meeting a child for sex."

    The chief interrupted and said, "Pat's right. If his daytimer puts him at other places with witnesses at any of the dates and times and places you've given then the accusation is false."

    The chief also said he would have other avenues of investigation pursued.

    It ended with zero evidence of the alleged affair being true. Some of the dates and times were when I was in other cities attending meetings and clerks in some of the places, low-class motels, identified my picture and laughed when asked if I'd ever rented a room in their motel.

    I was cleared, the girl admitted it wasn't true, and the welfare worker never apologized. She told people I'd "covered it up".

    I can't imagine what it would be like in today's atmosphere. Brett Kavanaugh can. Justice Thomas can. Obviously, Dershowitz knows and is frightened. He doesn't have a reputation of being a lech but he is viewed as a traitor by the leftists.
    That was my point. Thanks, @patrick. My gut feeling is that Dershowitz is innocent but he knows exactly what the Left is capable of doing to a person. And he, Dershowitz, has been solidly for truth these days, so he has opposed the Left on many occasions. He is targeted by the Left if it will help them to target him. I could tell in that interview that he was scared and I don't blame him.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Hillofbeans View Post
    Did anybody think he would go on Tucker's show and tell the truth?
    I don't trust any Democrat to tell the truth. But I'd be willing to give Dershowitz a pass on his lies if it would help nail the Clintons and others who are pedophiles and went to that island for their perverted games.




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    Quote Originally Posted by patrickt View Post
    Years ago, when I was a police officer, I was accused of having had a sexual relationship with an underage girl. I was at work and was called to the chief's office. When I walked in a woman from Child Welfare who I had known for years and with whom I had a good working relationship was glaring at me.

    The chief proceeded to say that a young girl, a client of the case worker, had complained that I'd been having sex with her. The case worker quickly corrected the chief and said the girl hadn't complained, we were having an affair, and the girl thought I would get a divorce and marry her.

    Of course, I said I had no idea what she was talking about.
    "She gave me dates and times and places she met you to have sex."
    "Well, I'm glad to hear that."

    I got up and left and returned with my daytimer. "Compare your dates and times and places with my record of appointments."
    "Of course, you wouldn't write in your daytimer that you were meeting a child for sex."

    The chief interrupted and said, "Pat's right. If his daytimer puts him at other places with witnesses at any of the dates and times and places you've given then the accusation is false."

    The chief also said he would have other avenues of investigation pursued.

    It ended with zero evidence of the alleged affair being true. Some of the dates and times were when I was in other cities attending meetings and clerks in some of the places, low-class motels, identified my picture and laughed when asked if I'd ever rented a room in their motel.

    I was cleared, the girl admitted it wasn't true, and the welfare worker never apologized. She told people I'd "covered it up".

    I can't imagine what it would be like in today's atmosphere. Brett Kavanaugh can. Justice Thomas can. Obviously, Dershowitz knows and is frightened. He doesn't have a reputation of being a lech but he is viewed as a traitor by the leftists.
    Glad to hear you lived in a time of 'innocent, until proven guilty', plus a boss who obviously knew your character well enough to highly question the accusations.

    I feel for Dershowitz 'cuz he's up against a mob - from both sides, it appears - with very few willing to have his back.
    It must be hard for a guy to know how to react to such an accusation in this climate. Come out vociferously, and you'll be viewed as 'protesting too much.' Laugh it off, and it's, 'He's not taking this seriously enough.' Sadly, 'calm, cool, and collectedly', as you handled it, doesn't seem to work any longer, either.

    What a no-win situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jen View Post
    I don't trust any Democrat to tell the truth. But I'd be willing to give Dershowitz a pass on his lies if it would help nail the Clintons and others who are pedophiles and went to that island for their perverted games.
    I think Dershowitz is usually on the side of the Constitution and I support that even if I don't like it. Too many "conservatives" are happy to abandon the Constitution when it suits their politics just like liberals.

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