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    Pakistani International Airlines 8303 crashes

    PIA 8383 an Airbus 320 has come down into a residential area whilst landing, killing all 121 passengers and crew. Flight PK 8303 had taken off from Lahore airport at 1pm for the 750-mile journey to Karachi and was scheduled to land at 2.45.


    The pilot radioed "We have lost all engines mayday mayday mayday". Controllers cleared both runways but the plane came down about 4km short of the runway.


    Pakistan International Airlines crash horror: Tape shows pilot | World | News | Express.co.uk

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    Prayers for everyone.

    Wow. Anxious to hear the outcome of the investigation on this one.

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    Damn that Trump, he had the plane shot down.
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    Airbus. no more details needed
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    Quote Originally Posted by jirqoadai View Post
    Airbus. no more details needed
    Absolutely. Wonder which software bug this one was.


    Apparantly it made four attempts to land. Also reports say only one engine was out. It should have been able to land on one engine.



    Interestingly, 23 August 2000, Gulf Air Flight 072, another A320 also crashed whilst going round on multiple landing attempts.

    Karachi plane crash: Three pulled ALIVE from wreckage, 104 dead | Daily Mail Online
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    Quote Originally Posted by UKSmartypants View Post
    Absolutely. Wonder which software bug this one was.


    Apparantly it made four attempts to land. Also reports say only one engine was out. It should have been able to land on one engine.



    Interestingly, 23 August 2000, Gulf Air Flight 072, another A320 also crashed whilst going round on multiple landing attempts.

    Karachi plane crash: Three pulled ALIVE from wreckage, 104 dead | Daily Mail Online
    i flew on an Airbus ONCE. i will never do that again. it appeared like it would fall apart at altitude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jirqoadai View Post
    i flew on an Airbus ONCE. i will never do that again. it appeared like it would fall apart at altitude.
    I would never fly in an Airbus, because of one simple reason.

    Boeing aircraft allow the pilot to take over in the last resort. In a Boeing you can tell the computer its wrong and take over.
    In an Airbus, the Computer has the last word, and can lock the pilot out.

    I worked with computers 30 years, ill never trust one to handle a plane over a human in an emergency. You only have to read the litany of computer cockups that have brought airbuses down.
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    A little early perhaps, but this does sound like a blow to Airbus just when the industry is hurting and Boeing trying to recover from their 737 problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Felix Birdbiter View Post
    Damn that Trump, he had the plane shot down.
    You forget to add "Because he's a racist" on the end.

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    wow this is an interesting photo, taken just before it crashed


    plane.jpg


    note:
    1. Scorch marks on the bottoms of the engine cowlings
    2. Undercarriage is not down


    The first thing i think here is the only way you would get those scorch marks is by engine exhaust or flame coming out the engine internally, or some sort of fuel fire, and the only reason the undercarriage wouldn't be down at this stage is complete loss of power. Something catastrophic has occurred system-wise.


    According to Flightradar24:

    "The particular model which crashed today was an Airbus A320-214, which uses an engine called a CFM56-5B4. CFM International is a joint venture between General Electric of the United States and France's Safran.


    The failure of a pair of CFM engines was blamed for the Kegworth air disaster in 1989, when 47 people were killed after a Boeing 737 crashed into a motorway embankment in Leicestershire.

    A fan blade in one of the engines failed around 13 minutes into the British Midland Airways flight, investigators said.

    The engine was subsequently modified and cleared to fly again.

    In 2018, a CFM56 engine on Southwest flight 1380 blew apart over Pennsylvania about 20 minutes after the Dallas-bound flight left New York. The explosion sent shrapnel ripping into the fuselage of the Boeing 737-700 plane and shattered a window. One person died. "


    Clearly theres been no explosion. But there has certainly be failure and fire in the engine cowlings. But TWO simulataneous failures is pretty rare.
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