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    Quote Originally Posted by Katzndogz View Post
    The 2018 and 2019 flu season caused over 60,000 deaths.

    The hospitals are empty. The hospital ships are empty. The emergency field hospitals in New York are empty. Every hospital overloaded and overworked is someplace else.

    Sorry but this stinks big time.

    Here is a story published by CBS News March 9th before the left media panic started:


    As the coronavirus outbreak continues to spread in the U.S., the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention provided a grim reminder of the toll that the flu has taken on Americans. The CDC said that so far this season, about 20,000 people have died of the flu, including 136 children.

    The CDC's most recent flu report says that as of February 29, hospitalization rates among children aged 4 and under were the highest on record at this point in the season, surpassing rates reported during the 2009 H1N1 pandemic. The 136 children's deaths also mark the highest on record since the 2009 pandemic.


    In all, the CDC estimates about 34 million people have gotten the flu so far this season and 350,000 have been hospitalized.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/flu-dea...-children-cdc/




    Now I am not trying to downplay the seriousness of COVID because it is very contagious and potentially fatal. But the reaction is not matching the real numbers.

    34 Million have had the flu already this season pre-COVID with 20,000 dead, but only 312,000 have COVID as of latest numbers with 8,503 deaths.



    And here we are changing the entire country, spending Federal money like mad, and projecting the worst possible outcome from a biased left media happy to tank the economy until the election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jen View Post
    They are just trying to drum the idea in that it is going to be bad. I hope it is a lot less bad than they predict. But I guess we'll see what happens.

    If this upcoming week is the worst, then hopefully better days are on their way.
    The claim is being made by some in the CDC that the locations of NYC and New Jersey are already at their peak for new cases, and after the rampant spate of deaths in the next couple weeks, the entire cycle in those early onset areas will begin to tail-off.

    That may indeed be true for those areas. And those areas will be well supplied with meds and ventilators, being the first areas which peaked.

    All of the major cities will likely go through the same cycle of the months to come. We will, as a nation, do our upmost to keep the supplies of meds, trained personnel, and ventilators in heavy production. But when a large group of 10+ large cities are simo-peaking, it is unlikely we can keep up.

    There is also a concept going around that a ventilator can be re-used. That is "Sort of True". So, if a machine is used on a person, in the room there they are shedding lots of virus contaminated skin cells, sweat, breath, etc., over a period of days, every nook and cranny of the machine will become contaminated.

    Which means, the circuit boards, the wiring harness, the joints in the chassis, not just the "Wet Attachments" section of tubing and pumps which lead to the hose and mask. (or intubation ).

    Yes, all of it can be disassembled, and sterilized. But the people doing such work have to be dressed out in complete bunny suits, with Scubba, or Hooka Air going to their hoods, and such work is extremely dangerous!

    It is generally cheaper, quicker, and less dangerous, if you have an efficient Ventilator Factory, to simply incinerate the used Ventilator, and Manufacture a brand new one!

    It is not as simple as person wearing gloves and a paper face mask wiping down the outside surface with an alcohol wipe. Not if you care at all for the people doing the work!

    Also, a used system has the potential to house and pass on other disease elements such as other viruses, bacteria, like TB, to the next patient, compounding their problems.

    It might be possible to use very high quality components, at much greater expense, such as Tefzel insulated wiring, and military grade, conformal coated circuit boards, to make it possible to autoclave the entire unit, but I've never seen them made that way... it is generally seen as more practical to use them once, and then heat them to destruction, to sterilize the used unit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurmugeon View Post
    The claim is being made by some in the CDC that the locations of NYC and New Jersey are already at their peak for new cases, and after the rampant spate of deaths in the next couple weeks, the entire cycle in those early onset areas will begin to tail-off.

    That may indeed be true for those areas. And those areas will be well supplied with meds and ventilators, being the first areas which peaked.

    All of the major cities will likely go through the same cycle of the months to come. We will, as a nation, do our upmost to keep the supplies of meds, trained personnel, and ventilators in heavy production. But when a large group of 10+ large cities are simo-peaking, it is unlikely we can keep up.

    There is also a concept going around that a ventilator can be re-used. That is "Sort of True". So, if a machine is used on a person, in the room there they are shedding lots of virus contaminated skin cells, sweat, breath, etc., over a period of days, every nook and cranny of the machine will become contaminated.

    Which means, the circuit boards, the wiring harness, the joints in the chassis, not just the "Wet Attachments" section of tubing and pumps which lead to the hose and mask. (or intubation ).

    Yes, all of it can be disassembled, and sterilized. But the people doing such work have to be dressed out in complete bunny suits, with Scubba, or Hooka Air going to their hoods, and such work is extremely dangerous!

    It is generally cheaper, quicker, and less dangerous, if you have an efficient Ventilator Factory, to simply incinerate the used Ventilator, and Manufacture a brand new one!

    It is not as simple as person wearing gloves and a paper face mask wiping down the outside surface with an alcohol wipe. Not if you care at all for the people doing the work!

    Also, a used system has the potential to house and pass on other disease elements such as other viruses, bacteria, like TB, to the next patient, compounding their problems.

    It might be possible to use very high quality components, at much greater expense, such as Tefzel insulated wiring, and military grade, conformal coated circuit boards, to make it possible to autoclave the entire unit, but I've never seen them made that way... it is generally seen as more practical to use them once, and then heat them to destruction, to sterilize the used unit.

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    Obviously, they should know all of what you've shared and totally reject the idea of using the ventilators more than once. If the demand is high they may go into denial mode about how it must be cleaned and do it anyway and live to regret it.

    I think I saw that NYC, Detroit, and NOLA are about to reach the peak. And as you said, multiple places reaching the peak at the same time creates problems.

    I hope that we are able to ride this week out with as few deaths as possible and less than has been predicted. I learned a lot from your post as always, @Kurmugeon. Thanks.




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    Quote Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post

    "This is going to be our Pearl Harbor moment, our 9/11 moment, only it's not going to be localized, it's going to be happening all over the country
    And what the hell am I supposed to do with that? Everyone here has an "essential" job they're still working. FFS
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