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    Quote Originally Posted by usfan View Post
    Is there some kind of secret atheist code words, that make 'arguments and reason!', valid in Progresso World? Are there some dog whistle trigger words that legitimize a post, so it can be labeled 'rational!', whether it is or not?

    ..its so hard to keep up with progressive rules of reason.. it is more like anti-reason..
    It is not up to me to prove gods do not exist. It is up to you to prove gods exist. You cannot. If you could, you would have done so.

    Isn't your lack of evidence at the crux of your problem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    It is not up to me to prove gods do not exist. It is up to you to prove gods exist. You cannot. If you could, you would have done so.

    Isn't your lack of evidence at the crux of your problem?
    I think you have me confused with someone who gives a shit..

    ..believe whatever you want. I don't care.
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    It is not up to me to prove gods do not exist. It is up to you to prove gods exist. You cannot. If you could, you would have done so.

    Isn't your lack of evidence at the crux of your problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by usfan View Post
    I think you have me confused with someone who gives a shit..

    ..believe whatever you want. I don't care.
    Who started this thread? It doesn't matter. It is clear you ended it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    It is not up to me to prove gods do not exist. It is up to you to prove gods exist. You cannot. If you could, you would have done so.

    Isn't your lack of evidence at the crux of your problem?


    Who started this thread? It doesn't matter. It is clear you ended it.

    Thing is the thread is NOT about whether or not gods exist. The thread is about the illogical reasoning of atheists that are based on subjectivity rather than objectivity.

    Hence the quoted headline of the thread. THAT was an argument from an atheist thinking that OFF is a channel on the TV.

    It is that same reasoning that pervades your threads that and deflection.

    Save face. Bow out now. Or not. I am having fun. Once I stop having fun is when I get out. So I am assuming you are having fun too. Or would have already left.
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    It is not up to me to prove gods do not exist. It is up to you to prove gods exist. You cannot. If you could, you would have done so.

    Isn't your lack of evidence at the crux of your problem?


    Who started this thread? It doesn't matter. It is clear you ended it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knightkore View Post
    Thing is the thread is NOT about whether or not gods exist. The thread is about the illogical reasoning of atheists that are based on subjectivity rather than objectivity.
    My reasoning is based on a lack of positive evidence for god's existence.

    The illogic is all yours.
    Hence the quoted headline of the thread. THAT was an argument from an atheist thinking that OFF is a channel on the TV.

    It is that same reasoning that pervades your threads that and deflection.

    Save face. Bow out now. Or not. I am having fun. Once I stop having fun is when I get out. So I am assuming you are having fun too. Or would have already left.
    My threads? Which threads have I started?

    Which of my questions to you and yours do you believe are deflections?

    It is up to you to prove your gods exists. It is not up to me to prove they do not.

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    Some people believe in God and others might believe in a lucky rabbits foot.

    It's best to believe in something. It's comforting if your boat just sank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    It is not up to me to prove gods do not exist. It is up to you to prove gods exist. You cannot. If you could, you would have done so.
    Isn't your lack of evidence at the crux of your problem?
    1. It is not up to you to prove your beliefs.
    2. It is not up to me to prove my beliefs.
    3. Everybody believes what their influences, minds, background, education, and preferences dictate.
    4. I lack no evidence, and i have no problem with my beliefs, or yours.
    5. Everyone has to do 2 things, alone:
    • Their own believing
    • Their own dying

    ..may your beliefs bring you joy, comfort, and peace..
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    Quote Originally Posted by darroll View Post
    Some people believe in God and others might believe in a lucky rabbits foot.

    It's best to believe in something. It's comforting if your boat just sank.
    ..and some people believe in no God, and nothing. That is likely wishful thinking, as well..

    The concept of accountability to one's Maker is very unnerving, especially for the omnipotent modern man..
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    It is not up to me to prove gods do not exist. It is up to you to prove gods exist. You cannot. If you could, you would have done so.

    Isn't your lack of evidence at the crux of your problem?


    Who started this thread? It doesn't matter. It is clear you ended it.

    My reasoning is based on a lack of positive evidence for god's existence.

    The illogic is all yours.


    My threads? Which threads have I started?

    Which of my questions to you and yours do you believe are deflections?

    It is up to you to prove your gods exists. It is not up to me to prove they do not.

    "My reasoning is based on a lack of positive evidence for god's existence."


    Nice liberalish wording. In actuality this means: your reasoning is based on negative evidence.

    If a tree falls in the forest & no one hears it did it actually happen?

    If a phone call by the President never had quid pro quo but was confirmed by third, fourth, even tenth party hearsay did an impeachable offense actually occur?

    THIS is how you're basing your "evidence".

    You can pick up the mic I just dropped at any time.

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    The Assumptions/beliefs:

    Intelligent Design

    Atheistic naturalism


    ONE, and only one, of these possibilities IS Objective Reality. The other is a delusion, deception, or wishful thinking.
    In what way would either choice be objective? Objective means not influenced by personal feelings or opinions.
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