The ultra-rich warn of ‘pitchforks and torches’ unless inequality is tackled

[Neo]

In the ballroom of the five-star Savoy Hotel on the Strand in central London, the super-rich and their advisers were advised this week that they may soon need to beware those with “pitchforks and torches”, unless they Don’t overuse your equipment. Honored to help millions of people who are facing the crisis of cost of living.
At an investment conference organized by Spear’s Wealth Management magazine, members of the global elite and their financial teams were told by progressive advisors that there is a “real risk of real rebellion” and “civic disruption” if the inequality gap between rich and poor widens. ” Will happen. It was allowed to expand as a result of rising energy and food prices hitting cramped homes.
https://biz.crast.net/the-ultra-rich-warn-of-pitchforks-and-torches-unless-inequality-is-tackled/

At least the organisation "we have the power" is trying to do something about the environment and inequality.

[memesofine]

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[Neo]

"We have the power"

Julia Davies is an interesting person. I think I'll read more about her and her organisation.
https://wehavethepower.org/about-us/

[Neo]

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Yes I agree, polishing the pitch forks so the truly rich 1% can see them gleaming and fear them.

[Captain Kirk!]

If you start carrying pitch forks the police will shoot you with their guns. Something you have allowed to be taken from you. That 1% are who the police protect and serve.

[Neo]

If you start carrying pitch forks the police will shoot you with their guns. Something you have allowed to be taken from you.
Civil unrest would be such a drag, hopefully the rich idle buggers won't let it get that far.

[Common]

Difficult to take on the rich,they can just get out of dodge in a flash and relax until the fireworks stop

[Trinnity]

This is a trojan horse perhaps? Consider the source - the ESG/DEI crowd. It's the slippery slope and the legality of it violates the 14th amdt as far as I can see - if applied in the USA. The obvious problem is when govt lowers the income threshold; where does it stop?

How about curtailing govt spending on bureaucracy and extra-constitutional meddling in Markets and Society?

I would suggest progressivism is at war with capitalism in England in a way that reminds me of an octopus that has its tentacles in everything. I'd also suggest this relentless progressive bent so called elites push is destroying Western Civ for them to enrich themselves in wealth and power. This isn't the greed of capitalism, it intends to control people until elites have literally every Dollar/Euro/et al, and inch of land and make everyone else their servants IF their life is worth allowing. Yes, some people are sociopaths and psychopaths in suits. They're running most of the world and people are wising up. It's not too late.

Great Britain is our greatest ally. Let's not ever forget that.

[Thom Paine]

??? The rich, in general, are not the enemy.

Only a number of miscreants, some are rich; most are not.

[Trinnity]

Members are reminded not to post anything that personally suggests violence toward govt officials, even as a joke, because it can be used to harass or harm the forum.

And this brings a larger issue. Isn't the Left trying to provoke the right into violence so they can clamp down? YES, they ABSOLUTELY ARE. So don't y'all get suckered and don't taint the forum with provocations. MY neck and the necks of the owner and staff aren't on the line for your free speech absolutism. Anyone who can't understand the ramifications of this isn't paying attention to politics. Anyone who hasn't EVER read the rules, you're not appreciating what you get for free here. Everyone here works for free. For you.

[Victory101]

yes they are trying to provoke the conservatives into violence but isn't the restraint displayed by the conservatives the reason the progressives have been able to devour us unencumbered

[Lone Gunman]

Difficult to take on the rich,they can just get out of dodge in a flash and relax until the fireworks stop

that's why the khmers killed them in their beds; there was no overt resistance until the authorities and their minions had been sufficiently pacified.

they got that part right.

[Old Tex]

The rich are thieves, the poor are noble.
God I'm tired of this same old bullshit. The truth is the rich are either lucky, smart or born with wealthy parents. You can't make yourself smarter (but you can learn) nor choose your parents or even be lucky but you can learn how not to make yourself poor. Most people don't even bother to try not to be poor. Instead they want everything & they want it now (even if they finance it). And that keeps them poor but you can't SELL THAT FACT to people. They would much rather believe that someone else is keeping them poor.

I won't talk about where I am in life, I have before. I'll just say that at 31 year old I got TIRED of living payday to payday & refused to do it in the future. Now I still live payday to payday BUT I'm enjoying life because I have a hellish large cushion, enough to support me for the rest of my life. Not rich but looking at where I started & what I earned working, damn well off. And ANYONE can do what I did.

[Rutabaga]

if only you had a 2nd. amendment.

[Gator Monroe]

Hay Rakes & Shotguns ?

[Neo]

Great Britain is our greatest ally. Let's not ever forget that.

Yes we are, and always will be.



I'll be 66 in roughly 16 months time, With the new triple lock increase to the state pension if I retired now I'd receive roughly £1,000 a month. 66 is a moving of the goalposts to suit the government. It was always promised I'd receive my pension on my 65th birthday which is fast approaching.

As I've always took notice of my father i realised I'd have to take care of myself and not trust the government which has turned out to be true.

Since I was 21 I've paid into pension funds, suffice to say I'm one of the lucky ones of my generation to have a "pot to piss in"so to speak when I retire.

My advice to younger people nowadays "Save as much as you can.you are going to need it"

[Gator Monroe]

Here in the US everyone is buying Gold/ Silver , I’m building Firearms . I will most likely have to sell some my Vintage Motorbike Collection ( 1966 BSA Victor GP Special/ 67 VW Trike / 1974 Harley Racer / 78 Maico Magnum ) But I will do Gunshows before I sell my 2000 Jaguar Sovereign ( Aqua Marine)

[Quark]

"We have the power"

Julia Davies is an interesting person. I think I'll read more about her and her organisation.
https://wehavethepower.org/about-us/AnotherCommunist/Fascist organization. She has no answers or fixes but she'll take all your money guaranteed.

[Quark]

Yes I agree, polishing the pitch forks so the truly rich 1% can see them gleaming and fear them.Why bother. All you guys are going to do is replace one rich Communist/Fascist Fat Cat and organization with another rich Communist/Fascist Fat Cat and organization. You solve problems with freedom and decentralization.

[Quark]

This is a trojan horse perhaps? Consider the source - the ESG/DEI crowd. It's the slippery slope and the legality of it violates the 14th amdt as far as I can see - if applied in the USA. The obvious problem is when govt lowers the income threshold; where does it stop?

How about curtailing govt spending on bureaucracy and extra-constitutional meddling in Markets and Society?

I would suggest progressivism is at war with capitalism in England in a way that reminds me of an octopus that has its tentacles in everything. I'd also suggest this relentless progressive bent so called elites push is destroying Western Civ for them to enrich themselves in wealth and power. This isn't the greed of capitalism, it intends to control people until elites have literally every Dollar/Euro/et al, and inch of land and make everyone else their servants IF their life is worth allowing. Yes, some people are sociopaths and psychopaths in suits. They're running most of the world and people are wising up. It's not too late.

Great Britain is our greatest ally. Let's not ever forget that.I get it we have to self-censor ourselves because the Left own the Internet and the company. I do try to mind my manners.

[Quark]

yes they are trying to provoke the conservatives into violence but isn't the restraint displayed by the conservatives the reason the progressives have been able to devour us unencumberedYes.

[Quark]

Yes we are, and always will be.



I'll be 66 in roughly 16 months time, With the new triple lock increase to the state pension if I retired now I'd receive roughly £1,000 a month. 66 is a moving of the goalposts to suit the government. It was always promised I'd receive my pension on my 65th birthday which is fast approaching.

As I've always took notice of my father i realised I'd have to take care of myself and not trust the government which has turned out to be true.

Since I was 21 I've paid into pension funds, suffice to say I'm one of the lucky ones of my generation to have a "pot to piss in"so to speak when I retire.

My advice to younger people nowadays "Save as much as you can.you are going to need it"You are not our ally. We are your lifeline. However, at the rate we are going we won't be your lifeline much longer.

[memesofine]

well, they've got us where they want us. we can't criticize or suggest carry a damn pitchfork. we are further gone than I thought.

[Physics Hunter]

Civil unrest would be such a drag, hopefully the rich idle buggers won't let it get that far.

Too fucking late, that ship sailed.

See the Italians, the Dutch, some Swedes, a bunch of Canadians...

They don't care about a "gap" they want us totally controlled...

[memesofine]

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[Neo]

You are not our ally.

We share state of the art technology with America. America has access to GCHQ America is our biggest trading partner.
I'm very sad you think that we are not Americas ally, without us in your corner you wouldn't have many friends in Europe.

[Northern Rivers]

Too fucking late, that ship sailed.

See the Italians, the Dutch, some Swedes, a bunch of Canadians...

They don't care about a "gap" they want us totally controlled...Nope. You forgot to consider, N'drangheta...the biggest organised crime dynamic since the DNC. They control the Mexican Cartels, Russian Mob, Catholic Church and what the uninformed consider as "the mafia".

[Neo]

Nope. You forgot to consider, N'drangheta...the biggest organised crime dynamic since the DNC. They control the Mexican Cartels, Russian Mob, Catholic Church and what the uninformed consider as "the mafia".

https://youtu.be/UneS2Uwc6xw

[old dog]

Is it OK to suggest a violent end after they have been convicted in a court of law? Asking for a friend.

[Trinnity]

well, they've got us where they want us. we can't criticize or suggest carry a damn pitchfork. we are further gone than I thought.You can't break the forum rules. I'm not your enemy. My job is to protect the forum. I'm not your momma and don't owe you a binky. Post here, follow the rules.

[Quark]

We share state of the art technology with America. America has access to GCHQ America is our biggest trading partner.
I'm very sad you think that we are not Americas ally, without us in your corner you wouldn't have many friends in Europe.Hell you are not even our friend. If it wasn't for America in WWI and II you all would be speaking modern German instead of corrupt Old German. You do realize you have more in common with Germany than America. Most of your latter monarchy has roots from Germany and Greece than anywhere else. Your monarchy even has roots going back to Tsarist Russia.

The only reason Britain likes America is to suck off our tit until it runs dry.

[crayons]

""The ultra-rich warn of ‘pitchforks and torches’ unless inequality is tackled""

crazyedit: The elite-luci's could care less about 'inequality'...

What really scares em >>> are self-sufficient Americans with acreage, lakes, swimmin-pools, range-land, farms, cattle, horses, 4x4's, private-airports,
cc & open-carry-laws and Good-Lookin-American-Women :endedit

[Neo]

The only reason Britain likes America is to suck off our tit until it runs dry.
America's tit would be something like this?

https://i.postimg.cc/mkpPPnJz/IMG-1564.jpg (https://postimages.org/)








I've kept that pic for just under 20 years knowing that one day I'd use it to show an American what a great tit he is. ;)

[Gator Monroe]

In France the Islamist rioters attacked a Police Station with an RPG

[Trinnity]

Good grief you two get a room.


G.Britain is our ally. They're struggling with progressivism. I sympathize. They need to get rid of it worse than we do and we should know better; we should see Marxism and other forms or collective and authoritarianism to recognize it. We didn't stop it. The GOP went along with it. SHAME on us.

[Neo]

Good grief you two get a room.


G.Britain is our ally. They're struggling with progressivism. I sympathize. They need to get rid of it worse than we do and we should know better; we should see Marxism and other forms or collective and authoritarianism to recognize it. We didn't stop it. The GOP went along with it. SHAME on us.

The U.K. has always been in Russia's radar, "Tsar Ivan the Terrible" once offered his hand in marriage to Queen Elizabeth I, she turned him down obviously.
Russians buy anything English, they see us as the leaders in law, order and fair play.

Russia these days see America as the muscle, but the U.K. the brains.

[Quark]

The U.K. has always been in Russia's radar, "Tsar Ivan the Terrible" once offered his hand in marriage to Queen Elizabeth I, she turned him down obviously.
Russians buy anything English, they see us as the leaders in law, order and fair play.

Russia these days see America as the muscle, but the U.K. the brains.:smiley_ROFLMAO:

[donttread]

In the ballroom of the five-star Savoy Hotel on the Strand in central London, the super-rich and their advisers were advised this week that they may soon need to beware those with “pitchforks and torches”, unless they Don’t overuse your equipment. Honored to help millions of people who are facing the crisis of cost of living.
At an investment conference organized by Spear’s Wealth Management magazine, members of the global elite and their financial teams were told by progressive advisors that there is a “real risk of real rebellion” and “civic disruption” if the inequality gap between rich and poor widens. ” Will happen. It was allowed to expand as a result of rising energy and food prices hitting cramped homes.
https://biz.crast.net/the-ultra-rich-warn-of-pitchforks-and-torches-unless-inequality-is-tackled/

At least the organisation "we have the power" is trying to do something about the environment and inequality.

And yet the polices of many western countries are widening the gap as we speak, and current policy could result in a two-class society.
Capitalism is the best system ever devised and works better for almost everyone that does socialism.
However, it is not a religion and not perfect by any means. Sometimes I can't get past the full-time worker living in a crappy apartment building while providing services to the super rich who spend more on a quick trip overseas that the worker makes in a year.
The table is tilted as money buys influence that congress and their appointees happily sell. Yes, brains, hard work, skill and even luck-built family fortunes. But then those fortunes bought influence and so on. Maybe in the tax code, maybe in the money required for fair treatment in the justice system, maybe by end running regulatory by tying them up in court or patent cost. The very existence of K Street speaks to the open way in congress sells influence here in America. It may vary from country to country, but I believe we can all relate. The megacorps and trade associations are not the only buyers we have special interest too, which lead to higher COL
It goes on but the Hilton's children had opportunities my kids did not. In part because of influence over time.

We do not need to tear capitalism down! But we can improve it as some of the Nordic countries seem to have done.

[Neo]

And yet the polices of many western countries are widening the gap as we speak, and current policy could result in a two-class society.
Capitalism is the best system ever devised and works better for almost everyone that does socialism.
However, it is not a religion and not perfect by any means. Sometimes I can't get past the full-time worker living in a crappy apartment building while providing services to the super rich who spend more on a quick trip overseas that the worker makes in a year.
The table is tilted as money buys influence that congress and their appointees happily sell. Yes, brains, hard work, skill and even luck-built family fortunes. But then those fortunes bought influence and so on. Maybe in the tax code, maybe in the money required for fair treatment in the justice system, maybe by end running regulatory by tying them up in court or patent cost. The very existence of K Street speaks to the open way in congress sells influence here in America. It may vary from country to country, but I believe we can all relate. The megacorps and trade associations are not the only buyers we have special interest too, which lead to higher COL
It goes on but the Hilton's children had opportunities my kids did not. In part because of influence over time.

We do not need to tear capitalism down! But we can improve it as some of the Nordic countries seem to have done.

I agree totally with you. Capitalism works, but over here in the U.K. we have a 2 tier society, the haves like me, and the have nots like the unemployed and immigrants. My tax £££s is spent looking after them.

If the NHS and all the other welfare services were taken away and privatised I’d take home more pay, no more would my taxation every week be extortionate to my weekly earnings. Private health, private dental…private everything as people who worked would pay for the services when they needed it.

Or is everyone missing something about the benefit of it?

[Quark]

Anarchy, decentralization, and capitalism solves all problems. What we have today is all nations/governments are either Fascists or Communists but no where is there capitalism.

Anarchy = Individual freedom.

Decentralization = What governments we have govern close to the people. Villages, town, cities, counties, etc.

Capitalism = Private property ownership and small businesses but not corporations and certainly not gigantic international corporations that are nations unto themselves.

[donttread]

I agree totally with you. Capitalism works, but over here in the U.K. we have a 2 tier society, the haves like me, and the have nots like the unemployed and immigrants. My tax £££s is spent looking after them.

If the NHS and all the other welfare services were taken away and privatised I’d take home more pay, no more would my taxation every week be extortionate to my weekly earnings. Private health, private dental…private everything as people who worked would pay for the services when they needed it.

Or is everyone missing something about the benefit of it?

It would be good to see price competition come back to healthcare.
However the two tier system I was referring to was the "super rich" and the rest of us. Working hard and full time no longer assures decent housing, healthcare or affordable anything. Neither does a college degree.
How far are the middle class from peasants at any given point in time?

[donttread]

Anarchy, decentralization, and capitalism solves all problems. What we have today is all nations/governments are either Fascists or Communists but no where is there capitalism.

Anarchy = Individual freedom.

Decentralization = What governments we have govern close to the people. Villages, town, cities, counties, etc.

Capitalism = Private property ownership and small businesses but not corporations and certainly not gigantic international corporations that are nations unto themselves.

Can you elaborate, because I'm not convinced that capitalism really needs megacorps either. At least not under the current rules concerning buying influence/lobbying.
I also believe that states could in fact exert some control over corporations that want to do business in their state.
Economies of scale is partly cancelled out by monopolistic behavior in some markets, like energy. Personally, I don't believe in corporate personhood. If corporations are people and if the corporate veil only extends to personal fiscal liability why don't corporations or their leaders go to jail or even get charged with criminal matters very much?
Should one billionaire be able to start 15 companies, keep all the profits from the fourteen successful ventures while having legally limited losses on the one that doesn't? To the point of ghosting legit creditors?
The way we do capitalism is NOT the only way it can be done.

[Gator Monroe]

Riots now in Belgium and Switzerland , could the UK see some soon ?

[Quark]

Can you elaborate, because I'm not convinced that capitalism really needs megacorps either. At least not under the current rules concerning buying influence/lobbying.
I also believe that states could in fact exert some control over corporations that want to do business in their state.
Economies of scale is partly cancelled out by monopolistic behavior in some markets, like energy. Personally, I don't believe in corporate personhood. If corporations are people and if the corporate veil only extends to personal fiscal liability why don't corporations or their leaders go to jail or even get charged with criminal matters very much?
Should one billionaire be able to start 15 companies, keep all the profits from the fourteen successful ventures while having legally limited losses on the one that doesn't? To the point of ghosting legit creditors?
The way we do capitalism is NOT the only way it can be done.Capitalism is very easy to understand. Capitalism is the right and freedom of the individual to buy, sell, and trade his/her private property be it tangible, intangible, or real. This also includes money (gold and silver). Corporatism or crony corporatism is nothing more than Fascism. What we have today is Fascism where by you can have tangible, intangible, or real property including money (gold and silver) as long as you play ball with the government at all levels from the city, town, village, county, state, and national. If any government can tell you what you can do with your property or take that property away from you at any time you do not have capitalism what you have is some form of fascism, communism, or maybe feudalism.

Hope this helps you understand capitalism.

[donttread]

Capitalism is very easy to understand. Capitalism is the right and freedom of the individual to buy, sell, and trade his/her private property be it tangible, intangible, or real. This also includes money (gold and silver). Corporatism or crony corporatism is nothing more than Fascism. What we have today is Fascism where by you can have tangible, intangible, or real property including money (gold and silver) as long as you play ball with the government at all levels from the city, town, village, county, state, and national. If any government can tell you what you can do with your property or take that property away from you at any time you do not have capitalism what you have is some form of fascism, communism, or maybe feudalism.

Hope this helps you understand capitalism.

I wasn't asking for help understanding capitalism but rather your comments on corporations.
Of course there are no pure systems anymore, all are hybrids
I agree with therm corporatist. The problems mostly stem from where big business and government meet.

[Neo]

It would be good to see price competition come back to healthcare.
However the two tier system I was referring to was the "super rich" and the rest of us. Working hard and full time no longer assures decent housing, healthcare or affordable anything. Neither does a college degree.
How far are the middle class from peasants at any given point in time?
It all comes down to education. The educated make something of their lives, the uneducated aren't bothered as the nanny state will give... and give.

When I left school I was bottom of the pile, could not write properly, grammar and spelling like a monkey was writing.
But, I educated myself, I made something of myself, I'm beholden to
no one.

[UKSmartypants]

Can you elaborate, because I'm not convinced that capitalism really needs megacorps either. At least not under the current rules concerning buying influence/lobbying.
I also believe that states could in fact exert some control over corporations that want to do business in their state.
Economies of scale is partly cancelled out by monopolistic behavior in some markets, like energy. Personally, I don't believe in corporate personhood. If corporations are people and if the corporate veil only extends to personal fiscal liability why don't corporations or their leaders go to jail or even get charged with criminal matters very much?
Should one billionaire be able to start 15 companies, keep all the profits from the fourteen successful ventures while having legally limited losses on the one that doesn't? To the point of ghosting legit creditors?
The way we do capitalism is NOT the only way it can be done.

it goes like this, in a circle


democracy - socialism - communism - marxism - -fascism - anarchism - fascism - imperialism - corporatism - capitalism - democracy

[UKSmartypants]

Yes I agree, polishing the pitch forks so the truly rich 1% can see them gleaming and fear them.

Nothing gets the peasants storming up the hill to the Big House with the pitchforks and flaming torches than when thier kids are starving. Thats usually the trigger point

[BooBoo]

it goes like this, in a circle


democracy - socialism - communism - marxism - -fascism - anarchism - fascism - imperialism - corporatism - capitalism - democracy

Cut Out the Middleman - YouTube (https://youtu.be/GJjHZOr6mXY)