Just a bunch of Travellars

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doing what Travellars do

Warring men stamp over gravestones as violent fight with hammers breaks out in cemeteryGrieving families saw the funerals of their loved ones disrupted as the warring men wreaked havoc at the cemetery.



The footage - which has not been made public until now - shows groups of boys and men with bats, hammers, knives, and axes attacking each other and chasing rivals around Swansea's Morriston Cemetery in the middle of the day. Vehicles were also used as weapons to deliberately crash into parked cars and to intimidate and pursue people around the grounds.

During the melee on August 5, 2022, gravestones were damaged, a number of people were seriously injured, and funerals were disrupted. At one stage, three of the brawlers intruded upon a cremation service for a mother-of-five by running into the chapel of rest and spitting on the floor and drinking water from a vase before hiding a weapon among the precious floral tributes - having first wiped it down to try to remove fingerprints.




Warring men stamp over gravestones as violent fight with hammers breaks out in cemetery | UK | News | Express.co.uk (https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1745438/cemetery-fight-swansea-Morriston-Cemetery)


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[UKSmartypants]

This is why we dont need to import foreign scum, we have our own supply.

[teeceetx]

Fucking pieces of human shit.

They should be locked up for 5 years each, at hard labor.

[Neo]

Fucking pieces of human shit.

They should be locked up for 5 years each, at hard labor.

I hate all black enamelled, dirty fucking traveller scum bastards!

[Madison]

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https://i2-prod.walesonline.co.uk/incoming/article26285032.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200c/0_Morriston-Cemetery-court-case.jpg

They have some sort of Antifas sort of faces :smiley_ROFLMAO:

[UKSmartypants]

Southern irish descent, all of them are thieving thugs who think the world owes them a living.

[QuaseMarco]

Southern irish descent, all of them are thieving thugs who think the world owes them a living.

Black Irish?

[Physics Hunter]

Southern irish descent, all of them are thieving thugs who think the world owes them a living.

That is what the names looked like, but then again I know nothing of the Welsh...

[Dubler9]

Southern irish descent, all of them are thieving thugs who think the world owes them a living.

Yes they are - if only they chose the same route as Muhammad Ali - Field Marshall Montgomery - The Beatles - Audy Murphy - 12 Presidents of USA - myself and my family - life would be much better.

The Traveler "community" create havoc and destruction wherever they set-up base camp. This "Grave runner riot" took place some time ago. The problem is court sentencing. Many of them will be released from prison next Christmas.

"Black Irish" > (Quase Marco) > That can mean an inference that blacks cause problems and these guys are the Irish version? Is that what you mean?

[Dubler9]

There is a tone in some content of a racist element - am I wrong. I don't do the race card I am a free speech absolutist..

I simply ask that comments stop inferring and actually say what they mean. If I have placed too much emphasis upon my perception of the tone then I accept that I am wrong.

[UKSmartypants]

There is a tone in some content of a racist element - am I wrong. I don't do the race card I am a free speech absolutist..

I simply ask that comments stop inferring and actually say what they mean. If I have placed too much emphasis upon my perception of the tone then I accept that I am wrong.





What like the constant english bashing from some posters here?

[Neo]

What like the constant english bashing from some posters here?

Ignore them sir! I revel in their jealousy :smiley_ROFLMAO:

[Canadianeye]

Sudden urge to go rent and watch Snatch. Friggin Pikers.

[Neo]

Sudden urge to go rent and watch Snatch. Friggin Pikers.
Pikey

[UKSmartypants]

Pikey


One of the joys of my native tongue is it contains more insulting words for foreigners than any other language.

[Dubler9]

So the logic is... English gets bashed - its OK to bash Irish ???
I have never said do not bash the Irish. I am not a woke, PC, person. All I asked was : why inject a tone? why not say what you mean? If you mean ALL IRISH PEOPLE travel to graveyards and destroy them and beat up anyone they find - then say so. If you mean ALL Irish people have numerous criminal offences then say so.
Why imply ALL IRISH PEOPLE do what was done by the Travelers in your post?

My 4 brothers and one sister, my parents, my children and grandchildren, their cousins - not one has ever committed an offence. Not even a driving ticket. My brother was The Mayor (in English town) my daughter is a millionaire. My grandchildren have never been unemployed. One of my brothers is a millionaire. I have never been unemployed. I served with the Military Police - MOJ and Crown Courts Tribunal Service and I sat on Parole Board Hearings for Life Sentence Prisoners as an MOJ representative (for the Home Office)

The 75,000 Irish men left Ireland for England to fight the Nazi's Men from Ireland hold the most Victoria Cross awards (190) after the English.
Irish have never played the victim card.

While I respect free speech and in no way do I seek any sort of penance. I do find your implying ALL Irish are criminals, hell bent on destroying the value of life for others, to be an insult. You are also backed up by one or two more on this forum.

I am simply responding, I do not hold a grudge or feel offended. The commitment to the world from Irish people stands able to rebut any and all attempts to besmirch the Irish as a race, ethnicity, nation and people.

By the way: Black Irish is an ethnicity, biologically, genetically. We are not of black skin as per an African. But it is a real living people from Ireland.

[Canadianeye]

So the logic is... English gets bashed - its OK to bash Irish ???
I have never said do not bash the Irish. I am not a woke, PC, person. All I asked was : why inject a tone? why not say what you mean? If you mean ALL IRISH PEOPLE travel to graveyards and destroy them and beat up anyone they find - then say so. If you mean ALL Irish people have numerous criminal offences then say so.
Why imply ALL IRISH PEOPLE do what was done by the Travelers in your post?

My 4 brothers and one sister, my parents, my children and grandchildren, their cousins - not one has ever committed an offence. Not even a driving ticket. My brother was The Mayor (in English town) my daughter is a millionaire. My grandchildren have never been unemployed. One of my brothers is a millionaire. I have never been unemployed. I served with the Military Police - MOJ and Crown Courts Tribunal Service and I sat on Parole Board Hearings for Life Sentence Prisoners as an MOJ representative (for the Home Office)

The 75,000 Irish men left Ireland for England to fight the Nazi's Men from Ireland hold the most Victoria Cross awards (190) after the English.
Irish have never played the victim card.

While I respect free speech and in no way do I seek any sort of penance. I do find your implying ALL Irish are criminals, hell bent on destroying the value of life for others, to be an insult. You are also backed up by one or two more on this forum.

I am simply responding, I do not hold a grudge or feel offended. The commitment to the world from Irish people stands able to rebut any and all attempts to besmirch the Irish as a race, ethnicity, nation and people.

By the way: Black Irish is an ethnicity, biologically, genetically. We are not of black skin as per an African. But it is a real living people from Ireland.

I had to look up the term black Irish. Seems the definition of black Irish...cannot be properly granted a true definition. Not unlike a lot of things lately.

Go figure.

Historically, there were some different ethnic Irish with darker skin, but not negroid if I read the information correctly. /dunno.

Who were the Black Irish, and what is their story? (https://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/who-were-the-black-irish)

[Dubler9]

Black IrishAdd languages


Article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Irish)
Talk (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Black_Irish)






Read (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Irish)
Edit (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Black_Irish&action=edit&editintro=Template:Disambig_editintro)
View history (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Black_Irish&action=history)







From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Black Irish, in its original usage, is the Black Irish (ethnic group) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Irish_(ethnic_group)) – Irish people, or those in the diaspora of Irish heritage, who have black hair, dark eyes, and a darker complexion than most (pale) Irish people.// END of Quote.

I do not say they are a race apart. I am Black Irish.

[Canadianeye]

Black IrishAdd languages


Article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Irish)
Talk (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Black_Irish)






Read (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Irish)
Edit (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Black_Irish&action=edit&editintro=Template:Disambig_editintro)
View history (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Black_Irish&action=history)







From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Black Irish, in its original usage, is the Black Irish (ethnic group) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Irish_(ethnic_group)) – Irish people, or those in the diaspora of Irish heritage, who have black hair, dark eyes, and a darker complexion than most (pale) Irish people.// END of Quote.

I do not say they are a race apart. I am Black Irish.




I'm mostly Scottish...or so says the research into my family.

[Canadianeye]

To stay on point though...these thugs should have the proverbial book thrown at them.

There are definitely way worse than them (MS13 comes to mind)...but they are violent thugs nonetheless.

Not surprising they are probably going to be out soon, given the court/justice system(s).

[Trinnity]

A few points.

I thought the black Irish are those with black hair and brown eyes. The constant soft bigotry in jokes and cliches against black people is disgusting and unworthy of grown adults.

I skimmed the article and didn't notice Travellers" mentioned, but it's my understanding they're vagabonds who travel with campers, take over, blocking roads and littering, before moving on. The people mentioned had physical addresses, so :dontknow:

And finally, it's odd and inappropriate for members to use the forum for a virtual barfight. :nono: If anyone wants a batman slap, my palm is already itching.

[Neo]

A few points.

I thought the black Irish are those with black hair and brown eyes. The constant soft bigotry in jokes and cliches against black people is disgusting and unworthy of grown adults.

I skimmed the article and didn't notice Travellers" mentioned, but it's my understanding they're vagabonds who travel with campers, take over, blocking roads and littering, before moving on. The people mentioned had physical addresses, so :dontknow:

And finally, it's odd and inappropriate for members to use the forum for a virtual barfight. :nono: If anyone wants a batman slap, my palm is already itching.

My city is plagued with the gypsy traveller filth, they buy vacant land around the town…. For revenue they burn traveller camps rubbish on this land. I’ve reported a pikey to the environment agency, I’ve filmed them with JCB’s loading the fires with more rubbish keeping the bonfires going all night.
The environment agency has to get 3 reports and films of them and then they get a ban with the threat of a fine or imprisonment. However! They simply start up the huge bonfires on other sites a traveller owns.

Edit
You can only burn grass and wood from your own property, not imported refuse.

[Dubler9]

I thinks it is totally acceptable for me as an Irishman to respond to such vile comments directed at ALL Irish people aligning us as/with violent, scum, thug, immoral shite who literally rioted in a Graveyard assaulting people and destroying property. The comments from two posts stated ALL Irish behave in this way, by implication, which is the same as saying it directly.
I am not hurt by such comments I simply believe it is right to challenge people who make such claims.

It is a fact that the Travelers are from Irish decent. I have worked with them and I have arrested them and locked them up. They truly do not give a flying fuxk about the people they hurt through criminal behaviour.
When I worked on a Farm, aged 16, I worked with Travelers, they work bloody hard. But in every instance they destroyed the farm sheds to use as firewood, they stole Tires from Tractors and they used the land as a toilet and dustbin. So I do not defend them.
I will not, as an Irishman, sit back and ignore comments saying ALL Irish behave outside of the law with no morals and no connection with all that is good in society.

If people wish to say such crass stuff they must expect they will be challenged. If I had said nothing their comments/posts will be on display as if condoned. I simply respond to it. I never ask for bans or deletions or control over speech.

[Trinnity]

You have a govt problem, Neo. Your govt is woke and inept, like ours.

[Trinnity]

If people wish to say such crass stuff they must expect they will be challenged. If I had said nothing their comments/posts will be on display as if condoned. I simply respond to it. I never ask for bans or deletions or control over speech.I don't like broad-brushing. It makes people look foolish and ignorant. I used to do it; I still do with regard to Democrats....it's very hard to accept anyone sane would still be in the Party. But groups of people? No. People aren't all alike. Come to think of it, I've broad brushed Indian Nationals too. I don't trust them b/c their caste system is so elitist and offensive. I'll try to keep those comments to myself in the future.

[Canadianeye]

You have a govt problem, Neo. Your govt is woke and inept, like ours.

As is mine.

[patrickt]

So the logic is... English gets bashed - its OK to bash Irish ???
I have never said do not bash the Irish. I am not a woke, PC, person. All I asked was : why inject a tone? why not say what you mean? If you mean ALL IRISH PEOPLE travel to graveyards and destroy them and beat up anyone they find - then say so. If you mean ALL Irish people have numerous criminal offences then say so.
Why imply ALL IRISH PEOPLE do what was done by the Travelers in your post?

My 4 brothers and one sister, my parents, my children and grandchildren, their cousins - not one has ever committed an offence. Not even a driving ticket. My brother was The Mayor (in English town) my daughter is a millionaire. My grandchildren have never been unemployed. One of my brothers is a millionaire. I have never been unemployed. I served with the Military Police - MOJ and Crown Courts Tribunal Service and I sat on Parole Board Hearings for Life Sentence Prisoners as an MOJ representative (for the Home Office)

The 75,000 Irish men left Ireland for England to fight the Nazi's Men from Ireland hold the most Victoria Cross awards (190) after the English.
Irish have never played the victim card.

While I respect free speech and in no way do I seek any sort of penance. I do find your implying ALL Irish are criminals, hell bent on destroying the value of life for others, to be an insult. You are also backed up by one or two more on this forum.

I am simply responding, I do not hold a grudge or feel offended. The commitment to the world from Irish people stands able to rebut any and all attempts to besmirch the Irish as a race, ethnicity, nation and people.

By the way: Black Irish is an ethnicity, biologically, genetically. We are not of black skin as per an African. But it is a real living people from Ireland.
Seventy years ago I was rummaging in my grandmother's attic and found a book of jokes from 1918. Ninety percent of the jokes were on the Irish. A few years later, Pollack jokes were all the rage and I heard some of the same jokes that I'd read in the joke book about the Irish.


I doubt if even 1% of the people in the U.S. know the origin of "Black Irish". They know no more of that than they do the Catholic Laws.

[UKSmartypants]

I skimmed the article and didn't notice Travellers" mentioned, but it's my understanding they're vagabonds who travel with campers, take over, blocking roads and littering, before moving on. The people mentioned had physical addresses, so :dontknow:.


Oh they are travellar stock , make no mistake but its forbidden to mention it in the UK press., Some of them have the old relatives installed in real houses, its aids benefits fraud.

There are the variants that run the Crop Picking Gangs in Lincolnshire,a gigantic tax avoidance swindle. Every now and then one of these gangs gets busted, The irish running it get thrown in jail for modern slavery and most of the puickers are illegal. And they engage in turf wars, A few years ago ther was a proper Wild west shotgun battle in a pub between two rival field gangs. There a large population round Newark in Nottinghamshire, a town known by the police as the Stolen Antiques capital of the UK, due to there being more antiques shop in Newark than any other town plus every summer they have the International Antiques Show on the Newark Showground, the largest Antigues market and fair on the planet, covering more than 100 acres and thousands of stalls. a great place to get rid of a van full of stolen gear.

[patrickt]

Oh they are travellar stock , make no mistake but its forbidden to mention it in the UK press., Some of them have the old relatives installed in real houses, its aids benefits fraud.

There are the variants that run the Crop Picking Gangs in Lincolnshire,a gigantic tax avoidance swindle. Every now and then one of these gangs gets busted, The irish running it get thrown in jail for modern slavery and most of the puickers are illegal. And they engage in turf wars, A few years ago ther was a proper Wild west shotgun battle in a pub between two rival field gangs. There a large population round Newark in Nottinghamshire, a town known by the police as the Stolen Antiques capital of the UK, due to there being more antiques shop in Newark than any other town plus every summer they have the International Antiques Show on the Newark Showground, the largest Antigues market and fair on the planet, covering more than 100 acres and thousands of stalls. a great place to get rid of a van full of stolen gear.
"Most people are surprised to learn a band of Irish Travellers has called South Carolina home since the 1940s. Also known as “gypsies,” which is a bit outdated and skirts a political incorrectness rife with uneasiness, the Irish Travellers that live outside of the city of North Augusta in South Carolina are the largest community in the nation. The population is said to currently be approaching 3,000 people. But the group is an extremely closed-knit society and few people from the outside fully penetrate this culturally different community. Here’s what we know to be true of the Irish Travellers in South Carolina today:"
Murphy Village In South Carolina Is Home To Largest Irish Traveller Community In America (https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/south-carolina/murphy-village-north-augusta-sc/)


When I was in the third grade my mother got me out of school to go see the "gypsies". Families driving open touring cars and cooking and camping outdoors.


When I was on vacation one year a band of such people were arrested in our city for the pillaging of a grocery in Laramie, Wyoming. It was a culture shock for everyone and left enough stories for years of telling.


And a few YouTube videos about Murphy Village:
5 homes and 25 cars seized after Murphy Village indictment - YouTube (https://youtu.be/FGpsViJKvDg)
A Secret Society -- Irish Travellers in America - YouTube (https://youtu.be/D_D-V_D65BM)
Murphy Village Neighborhood: Home To Irish Travellers - YouTube (https://youtu.be/m3OqqWWJtj4)