Man arrested over 1996 IRA Manchester bombing

[Moonie]

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Man arrested over 1996 IRA Manchester bombing



The police have arrested a man in connection with the IRA’s 1996 bombing of Manchester city centre, the first arrest to be made on suspicion of terrorism offences since the attack.

Greater Manchester police said a man was stopped at Birmingham airport on Thursday night as he entered the country. He will be interviewed by officers from Counter Terrorism Policing for the North West (CTPNW).



https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/man-arrested-1996-ira-manchester-bombing-v3s02nlg8
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[Moonie]

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The IRA scum were not the friends of Ireland, and their sectarian wonts but a cover for the gangsterisms/crime.
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[Oberon]

I never get what these animals are supposed to be achieving by bombing civilians and killing women and children.

[Big Dummy]

I never get what these animals are supposed to be achieving by bombing civilians and killing women and children.

It is terrorism. Exactly the same as blm/antifa/cair moozies. They create fear and compliance in the civilian populace, and even no-go zones of territory.

Asymmetrical warfare isn’t understood by most. Terrorism is just a small part of it. Asymmetrical war should be your prime study, because that is how all wars are being fought today.

So you don’t want to fight. You don’t want to kill. You are old and decrepit but want to contribute? That is why I’m posting threads like these.

https://thepoliticsforums.com/threads/197424-Basic-tactical-SIGINT

[Authentic]

I never get what these animals are supposed to be achieving by bombing civilians and killing women and children.

The Manchester bomb killed no one.

The South Armagh Brigade called in a warning and later regretted that people had been injured.

The gain is/was economic disruption of the United Kingdom.

And it worked - Great Britain withdrew its army from the Six Counties and Sinn Fein got a power sharing deal in a reconstituted Stormont.

Northern Ireland can now choose its own course.

[Oberon]

It is terrorism. Exactly the same as blm/antifa/cair moozies. They create fear and compliance in the civilian populace, and even no-go zones of territory.

Asymmetrical warfare isn’t understood by most. Terrorism is just a small part of it. Asymmetrical war should be your prime study, because that is how all wars are being fought today.

So you don’t want to fight. You don’t want to kill. You are old and decrepit but want to contribute? That is why I’m posting threads like these.

https://thepoliticsforums.com/threads/197424-Basic-tactical-SIGINT


I think they're just sociopaths who like to kill people, and just using some 'Cause' as an excuse. They are just criminals, is all, not 'freedom fighters'.

[Authentic]

I think they're just sociopaths who like to kill people, and just using some 'Cause' as an excuse. They are just criminals, is all, not 'freedom fighters'.
That is what King George and Lord North thought of Francis Marion and George Washington.

Well, maybe not King George. Who knows how much actual thinking he was doing at that point?

[Big Dummy]

I think they're just sociopaths who like to kill people, and just using some 'Cause' as an excuse. They are just criminals, is all, not 'freedom fighters'.
You think the revolutionaries were called something other than criminals and murderers? You think civilians weren’t killed? The only difference I saw was the manner and era of the war. The Irish mob was more equipped and inclined to fight. 1% of Americans fought the British. It was the brutes. 3% were in active support. The rest just didn’t understand. Sound like the Irish vs the British crown?

[Oberon]

The Manchester bomb killed no one.

The South Armagh Brigade called in a warning and later regretted that people had been injured.

The gain is/was economic disruption of the United Kingdom.

And it worked - Great Britain withdrew its army from the Six Counties and Sinn Fein got a power sharing deal in a reconstituted Stormont.

Northern Ireland can now choose its own course.

I have grandparents who fled Ireland because of their membership in Irish political groups that led to the 1916 uprising and were being hunted by the Brits. They all denounced the modern posers claiming to be assorted IRA factions as nothing but dope dealers and extortionists terrorizing their own neighborhoods to control criminal rackets. Wolfe Tone they ain't.

[Dubler9]

It is terrorism. Exactly the same as blm/antifa/cair moozies. They create fear and compliance in the civilian populace, and even no-go zones of territory.

Asymmetrical warfare isn’t understood by most. Terrorism is just a small part of it. Asymmetrical war should be your prime study, because that is how all wars are being fought today.

So you don’t want to fight. You don’t want to kill. You are old and decrepit but want to contribute? That is why I’m posting threads like these.

https://thepoliticsforums.com/threads/197424-Basic-tactical-SIGINT

Not so in the way you put it. I totally oppose the modus operandi of the IRA via planting bombs but that does not mean there was no legitimate grievance which promulgated a "war" between Ireland and Britain. The British committed major atrocities against the Irish. Britain was the greatest Empire ever known and bullied little Ireland and lost.

[Oberon]

You think the revolutionaries were called something other than criminals and murderers? You think civilians weren’t killed? The only difference I saw was the manner and era of the war. The Irish mob was more equipped and inclined to fight. 1% of Americans fought the British. It was the brutes. 3% were in active support. The rest just didn’t understand. Sound like the Irish vs the British crown?


Don't recall Jefferson taking over drug rackets and knee capping kids.

[Dubler9]

I have grandparents who fled Ireland because of their membership in Irish political groups that led to the 1916 uprising and were being hunted by the Brits. They all denounced the modern posers claiming to be assorted IRA factions as nothing but dope dealers and extortionists terrorizing their own neighborhoods to control criminal rackets. Wolfe Tone they ain't.
Contrary to general belief there was no mass support for the 1916 uprising within Ireland / Dublin. It was almost a spontaneous act with a band of rebels half who did not know what was going on.
The British adopted an over the top reaction arrogantly assuming they could easily crush the rebels. They used, as one would expect, dirty tactics viz a viz the Court Martial system. This back fired on the British. Big mistake but every bit as nasty as any rebel bullet or bomb.

[Oberon]

That is what King George and Lord North thought of Francis Marion and George Washington.

Well, maybe not King George. Who knows how much actual thinking he was doing at that point?

Actually Washington was facing charges in Britain over his alleged improprieties over the distribution of some 100,000 acres of land he was supposed to parcel out to other British officers as compensation for their service in the 7 Years War. He had something to lose if the U.S. didn't secede from England, about 20,000 acres of prime farmland. Only around 10% of colonials wanted to secede at the time, so it wasn't like a big thing. That came along later, due to the political incompetence of arrogant British officers sent over. Benjamin Franklin's own son was pro-Brit, and was appointed governor of New Jersey by the Brits while his father was on 'the other side'. There is no real comparison between the two fights.

[Dubler9]

Don't recall Jefferson taking over drug rackets and knee capping kids.
No but did he form a sadistic troop - the highest paid in the British Army (Black n Tans) to go around villages and slaughter civilians. Did he send an amoured car with high velocity machine gun into a football stadium and mow down civilians watching the football match? (Croke Park)

[Oberon]

Contrary to general belief there was no mass support for the 1916 uprising within Ireland / Dublin. It was almost a spontaneous act with a band of rebels half who did not know what was going on.
The British adopted an over the top reaction arrogantly assuming they could easily crush the rebels. They used, as one would expect, dirty tactics viz a viz the Court Martial system. This back fired on the British. Big mistake but every bit as nasty as any rebel bullet or bomb.

I don't disagree. The Brits had a bad habit of being arrogant and producing far worse results than if they had just stayed home. That is the problem with a lot of countries still run by inbred aristocrats and a class system. they were their own worst enemies. In any case, they managed to turn the whole affair into a religious sectarian fiasco. My GPs were Presbyterian and Jewish on my mother's side, not Catholics. They made the same mistakes in a lot of their former colonies.

How many ' IRA's' are there now? Some are just Marxists posing as 'Nationalists', others are just crime syndicates.

[Dubler9]

I don't disagree. The Brits had a bad habit of being arrogant and producing far worse results than if they had just stayed home. That is the problem with a lot of countries still run by inbred aristocrats and a class system. they were their own worst enemies. In any case, they managed to turn the whole affair into a religious sectarian fiasco. My GPs were Presbyterian and Jewish on my mother's side, not Catholics. They made the same mistakes in a lot of their former colonies.

Yes you make fair points. It was all a mess and has forever been so.

[Big Dummy]

Don't recall Jefferson taking over drug rackets and knee capping kids.

The hemp farmers didn’t control the drug racket? When do you suppose MJ was first smoked?


https://aadl.org/node/193822

[Northern Rivers]

The hemp farmers didn’t control the drug racket? When do you suppose MJ was first smoked?


https://aadl.org/node/193822Funny, funny, funny thing happened, here...maybe...ten years ago. All the hippies in The Green Triangle were crash-hot on allowing hemp fibre farming. Of course, they considered growing good dope scattered throughout the acreage. At the regional meeting...somebody asked if "males were culled". As soon as the big NO was entered into the record...it was all over. :smiley_ROFLMAO:

[Moonie]

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The British Army was in Northern Ireland to stop the Protestant and Catholic civilians from murdering each other post 1916.

It was not helped by U.S. Catholics funding the I.R.A.
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[JMWinPR]

Moonie do you think naming Joe "bootlegger" Kennedy as ambassador to England was an act of spite?

[Moonie]

@Moonie (https://thepoliticsforums.com/member.php?u=4418) do you think naming Joe "bootlegger" Kennedy as ambassador to England was an act of spite?

Frankly, it was not appropriate.

I'm a quarter Irish myself (and a damn sight more Irish than most Irish-Americans as such), with a Protestant great-grandfather who was Church of Ireland (in Wicklow) and had his house burned down in in 1917. He died from the effects of the fire.

My first ever job was as a racing yard attendant in Wicklow (there wasn't much chance of such service in London) but the family connections to horse racing world were still there.
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[Dubler9]

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The British Army was in Northern Ireland to stop the Protestant and Catholic civilians from murdering each other post 1916.

It was not helped by U.S. Catholics funding the I.R.A.
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If I may correct you - the British troops were sent to Ni to stop the Protestants killing the Catholics.

[Oberon]

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The British Army was in Northern Ireland to stop the Protestant and Catholic civilians from murdering each other post 1916.

It was not helped by U.S. Catholics funding the I.R.A.
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Well, the Brits gerrymandered the Northern counties, as they wanted to keep the shipyards there; they were a big deal early in the 20th century, so that whole 'Prods versus Papists' is a red herring, and again the Brits created the problem. They learned a lot from our own politicians like Eldridge Gerry. They wanted Protestants in charge of the shipyards and the labor unions.

[Dubler9]

Well, the Brits gerrymandered the Northern counties, as they wanted to keep the shipyards there; they were a big deal early in the 20th century, so that whole 'Prods versus Papists' is a red herring, and again the Brits created the problem. They learned a lot from our own politicians like Eldridge Gerry. They wanted Protestants in charge of the shipyards and the labor unions.
Oh yes, I agree.

[Moonie]

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Bottom line.

The Northern counties if the Ireland did not want Catholic rule.

I loved my Northern Ireland training in the British Army. It let me kick the hell out of my 'enemy' comrades-in-arms.

I never mentioned this on returns to Wicklow (which is terribly English home counties in attitude/behaviour).
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[Dubler9]

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Bottom line.

The Northern counties if the Ireland did not want Catholic rule.

I loved my Northern Ireland training in the British Army. It let me kick the hell out of my 'enemy' comrades-in-arms.

I never mentioned this on returns to Wicklow (which is terribly English home counties in attitude/behaviour).
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It **started by the Protestants attacking the Catholics. The Catholics requested help so the British Government sent the troops in. Lets be clear and honest - the Loyalist Protestants were just as vile and applied murder and kidnapping and bombing.
They were not and never have been some innocent passive bystanders. They were very nasty and cruel, bigoted and partisan and applied any means possible.
** The modern day "troubles".

[Moonie]

It **started by the Protestants attacking the Catholics. The Catholics requested help so the British Government sent the troops in. Lets be clear and honest - the Loyalist Protestants were just as vile and applied murder and kidnapping and bombing.
They were not and never have been some innocent passive bystanders. They were very nasty and cruel, bigoted and partisan and applied any means possible.
** The modern day "troubles".

Just keep spouting Catholic/IRA propaganda. It makes you happier than realising that Northern Ireland didn't want Popish guidance (for what in hell that's worth to Eire increasing muslim arrrivals).
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[Authentic]

So, has this fellow been identified?

[Dubler9]

Just keep spouting Catholic/IRA propaganda. It makes you happier than realising that Northern Ireland didn't want Popish guidance (for what in hell that's worth to Eire increasing muslim arrrivals).
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It is very rare to see the killings and violence caused by the Loyalists on British media. Ireland is finished. Its culture, identity etc because of leftie socialism with mass immigration at the hub.