'VERY FRIGHTENED' Jihadi bride Shamima Begum fears she will be EXECUTED when she stan

[Moonie]

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'VERY FRIGHTENED' Jihadi bride Shamima Begum fears she will be EXECUTED when she stands trial for terror offences

JIHADI bride Shamima Begum fears she will be executed after being told she is to stand trial for terror offences.

Sources say the former Brit, 22, is likely to face prosecution after officials ordered a probe into her links to IS.



https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/18857290/shamima-begum-execution-fears-trial-terror-offences/
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[Moonie]

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She says that she wants to come back to enjoy the culture she enjoyed in a Wimpy just outside of the M25.

Apparently Syria just doesn't have the culinary joys she experienced in England.
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[LadyMoonlight]

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She says that she wants to come back to enjoy the culture she enjoyed in a Wimpy just outside of the M25.

Apparently Syria just doesn't have the culinary joys she experienced in England.
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Wimpy??

[LadyMoonlight]

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'VERY FRIGHTENED' Jihadi bride Shamima Begum fears she will be EXECUTED when she stands trial for terror offences

JIHADI bride Shamima Begum fears she will be executed after being told she is to stand trial for terror offences.

Sources say the former Brit, 22, is likely to face prosecution after officials ordered a probe into her links to IS.



https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/18857290/shamima-begum-execution-fears-trial-terror-offences/
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I hope she reaps what she sowed. If she is frightened, maybe she now understands what victims of Islam feel when they are tortured, terrorised and executed feel. May she be executed and the quicker the better, and here's hoping all those like her go the same way. No sympathy whatsoever.

[Dubler9]

I believe she should be allowed back. She is a UK citizen. The politicians played to "the court of public opinion". The same people who do not know where Syria is. Do not know anything about Syria and do not care.

I strongly, vehemently, believe in the concept - "YOU ARE NEXT". The "court of public opinion" could decide that "white heterosexual males should be disenfranchised from society" .. oh wait, they already do. Its happening.

[Moonie]

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Wimpy??
The appropriately, and especially in this case, perverse so-called religion:



https://wimpy.uk.com/
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[Glasgow Guy]

I believe she should be allowed back. She is a UK citizen. The politicians played to "the court of public opinion". The same people who do not know where Syria is. Do not know anything about Syria and do not care.

I strongly, vehemently, believe in the concept - "YOU ARE NEXT". The "court of public opinion" could decide that "white heterosexual males should be disenfranchised from society" .. oh wait, they already do. Its happening.

Well, she made her bed, so she must lie in it. She was an adult when she made her decisions against plenty of advice.

[Moonie]

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Nowt but a tart to the pretend 'faith' that inflicts them.
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[dinosaur]

:dontknow: This Ms Begum girl sure is dumb. Everyone in the entire world knows all you have to do is arrange travel to Mexico, walk across the southern border, and viola!, you are on a path to American citizenship. I hear there are even neighborhoods in Minneapolis where Ms Begum will feel right at home, can even marry her "brother" if she wants to, and return to making suicide vests and molotov cocktails, something she knows a little about. Instead, there she sits, in a refugee camp, worrying about losing her head. If only she would use her head.

:geez: Oh, I don't really want her here, we have enough dummies already.

[Dubler9]

William Roper: So now you'd give the Devil benefit of law?
Sir Thomas Moore: Yes. What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?
William Roper: I'd cut down every law in England to do that!
Sir Thomas Moore: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned on you - where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country's planted thick with laws from coast to coast - man's laws, not God's - and if you cut them down - and you're just the man to do it - do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake.

Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons, 1960.

[teeceetx]

Sew HER into an explosive vest, and set it off in an empty field.

She's a vile piece of crap who deserves to die.

[Dubler9]

Shamima Begum was aged 15. She Married a 23 year old Dutch ISIS fighter, she had to witness the severing of heads and execution and torture of dissenters. She lost two children, aged 8 months and 23 months and had a third child.
The UK Tory politicians, pursuing higher positions, including leadership, sought to induce good public image by playing to the people ... "vote for me and I will NOT allow Begum home to Britain"!!! "I will change the law to stop any person (A British person by the way) returning to Britain who has chosen to join ISIS"!!

Top Journalists vied for retrospective law to apply to Begum. She wanted an appeal case so the government stopped legal aid for her.
The principle of the Rule Of Law pushed to second place below electioneering?
If they disregard the law for this they can disregard the law for you and me.

I remember Michael Howard - a Tory Home Secretary - responsible for law/courts/Prisons/police - he was also directly responsible for the release of Life Sentence Prisoners convicted of Murder. Back then the Home Secretary controlled when a "Lifer" got out. (I was a senior manager in Home Office Lifer section and contributed to Parole board hearings on behalf of the Home Secretary) no matter the progress a prisoner made, risk low or high, good or bad - the Home Secretary made the decision on release.
Michael Howard was up for election... his mantra from the podium was - I quote: "vote for me, Myra Hindley will never be released"!!! (she being our most notorious vilest criminal in the system, with massive public hatred and media spin).
Politicians should not play with the rule of law.

[LadyMoonlight]

I read something a long time ago, can't remember when. It was an interview with some Yazidi (spelling?) women. In the interview the women stated that they feared their Muslim male captors; the rapes the treatment, but do you know what they feared more? They feared the wives of those Muslim men, they were terrified of them because they were worse than the men.
I don't care how old she was. She knew exactly what she was marrying, she knew exactly what the life was like. She stated that she had no problems with seeing severed heads (and this was AFTER her husband was killed and she was in the camp). She deserves everything that happens to her and so do others who CHOSE the same life she CHOSE. They should never be allowed to return to their countries of origin...EVER. Let her rot where she is.

[dinosaur]

I believe she should be allowed back. She is a UK citizen. The politicians played to "the court of public opinion". The same people who do not know where Syria is. Do not know anything about Syria and do not care.

I strongly, vehemently, believe in the concept - "YOU ARE NEXT". The "court of public opinion" could decide that "white heterosexual males should be disenfranchised from society" .. oh wait, they already do. Its happening.

:thinking: While respecting your opinion, I wonder how you arrived at that opinion? If Ms Begum is worried about her head, she must have reason to worry. That means she is afraid of trial and punishment handed out in the country she chose to be part of. If she committed terrorist acts, or participated in the furtherment of terrorist acts in Syria, she should be handled by the Syrian system of justice. It would be the same even if she was still a British citizen, that is somewhat immaterial to her losing her head.

Is her "refugee camp" a prison, or is she simply hoping the Syrians don't have time to mess with little ol' Ms Begum?

If Ms Begum is a criminal responsible for terrorism, then why would anyone want her in their home country? Nothing like having a yet another terrorist to deal with! I can have sympathy for a Mom who has lost a child, or children. But a Mom who sews siucide vests deserves no sympathy whatsoever. I wonder if she is sad that her children died before being old enough to wear one of the vests she sewed for them?

I say let her face justice where she is. After all, that is the justice she fought for!

And this is not a "you are next" scenario. None of us went to Syria, to help Syrian rebels attempt to overthrow the government, and lost. We don't have to worry about any " next".

[Crusader]

I’d let her back…when hell freezes over.

She is not just a former jihadi sympathizer, she is a jihadi an enemy of the western world. You don’t just turn that off, did the victims of the savages she supported and help get a chance for a do over. No they were savagely killed with her knowledge and participation, I’m sorry but you don’t get to say I was wrong my bad I wanna go home now. She wanted to go to Syria and play jihad, she is right where she belongs.

[Dubler9]

I am simply saying: When it comes to the rule of law we should not respect it when it favours only things/people we like and support.

The Dems under Prezzy Brandon are operating outside of the rule of law - simply because they despise Trump.

[Madison]

I don't give a flying fuck of shaminana :meanfingers:

She can go rot in hell

She was an Isis breeding cow and nobody did force her to go there and fuck with terrorists. She did go because she wanted to go there. So stay there.


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[Dubler9]

My stance is not to do with liking her or her joining ISIS. My point is formed on the rule of law. She is a British citizen and should have returned to Britain. No one has asked that she not be put on trial. She can be tried in an English Crown Court and sentenced. This was the desire of those who support her return to England.

The Rule Of Law is so defined that your reason, intent, ideology, status etc will not push aside the offence you commit and the fair application of the law in all its tenets.

[Trinnity]

I hope she reaps what she sowed.


Well, she made her bed, so she must lie in it. She was an adult when she made her decisions against plenty of advice.


Sew HER into an explosive vest, and set it off in an empty field.
She's a vile piece of crap who deserves to die.


Shamima Begum was aged 15. She Married a 23 year old Dutch ISIS fighter, she had to witness the severing of heads and execution and torture of dissenters. She lost two children, aged 8 months and 23 months and had a third child.
The hatefulness and casual love of cruelty on this forum makes me sick to my stomach. I don't know why I bother coming here anymore.

[Trinnity]

I think I'll just log out for a while.

[potlatch]

The hatefulness and casual love of cruelty on this forum makes me sick to my stomach. I don't know why I bother coming here anymore.
With all due respect to you Trinnity, this is why I often take long breaks. Our wonderful forum has devolved into anger, hate and loss of compassion. :sad1:

[East of the Beast]

With all due respect to you Trinnity, this is why I often take long breaks. Our wonderful forum has devolved into anger, hate and loss of compassion. :sad1:Well, we are known by the company we keep.

[East of the Beast]

I think I'll follow your lead potlatch.....when the news kept me in turmoil all the time I quit watching....God has this.....This forum is getting to be much the same...I think I'm out for a while.

[dinosaur]

My stance is not to do with liking her or her joining ISIS. My point is formed on the rule of law. She is a British citizen and should have returned to Britain. No one has asked that she not be put on trial. She can be tried in an English Crown Court and sentenced. This was the desire of those who support her return to England.

The Rule Of Law is so defined that your reason, intent, ideology, status etc will not push aside the offence you commit and the fair application of the law in all its tenets.

You make my point, in a round about way. Ms Begum committed no breach of law in the UK. Any crime of which she is accused happened in Syria, not the UK, so the rule of law in Syria has jurisdiction for any crime and prosecution.

If I, as an American citizen, go to any other country, and commit a crime, I expect to be held to account in that country's system of justice, not American justice. There is an infamous case of an American student tried in Italian court for murder, and more recent, and closer to your home, the UK is demanding UK justice for the wife of an American diplomat who got confused about which side of the road to drive on. Rule of law dictates that you are held accountable in the place where the crime occurred. Countries have invested heavily in procedures of extradition to make sure that happens.

[potlatch]

I think I'll follow your lead @potlatch (https://thepoliticsforums.com/member.php?u=1644).....when the news kept me in turmoil all the time I quit watching....God has this.....This forum is getting to be much the same...I think I'm out for a while.

Don't stay away too long, you'll be missed. I once stayed away 3 weeks and when I came back all of my previous comments were gone! :geez:

[Kodiak]

With all due respect to you Trinnity, this is why I often take long breaks. Our wonderful forum has devolved into anger, hate and loss of compassion. :sad1:

You got that right. If you have any compassion for the Ukrainian people, you are dubbed a "Soros puppet".

[LadyMoonlight]

The hatefulness and casual love of cruelty on this forum makes me sick to my stomach. I don't know why I bother coming here anymore.
Are you saying that she should not be held accountable for her actions and her choices? That the poor, innocent little dear should be able to just walk away from what she was, willingly, a part of? That people like me who want her to be held accountable, are mean and horrible people?
She CHOSE to be a part of something so evil that it stuns the mind. Why should she get to walk away from it? She had no problem with the beheadings, with her husband and his companions raping young women, with horrific actions, but, now that they lost and it's not fun anymore, she wants to go home to some comfort, back to a society she willingly turned her back on and would see destroyed. I don't understand why you think we are hateful and cruel because we want justice for her victims. If you think she was just a poor innocent girl, then you are sadly mistaken. She, and others like her, knew exactly what she was getting into, and WANTED TO BE A PART OF...from news reports, from information she received from the network she was in contact with.

Why are we hateful and cruel because we want justice? If she and her husband had blown up/murdered your family and not some people a long way away from you that you will never know the names of, would you still feel the same way? Would you look at the graves of your loved ones and say something like, well, she really wasn't responsible and she should be allowed to walk away and have a life of relative comfort now, let her put the past behind her?

Well, I make no apologies for believing that people should be held accountable for their choices and their actions. This was no minor little event she was a part of. She should be held accountable, her and her fellow jihadi brides.

[potlatch]

You got that right. If you have any compassion for the Ukrainian people, you are dubbed a "Soros puppet".

I would feel compassion for people in any country who were being slaughtered in a war. There are those who consider us wimpy for feeling that way, but I think they are heartless. The last two years have been hard on all of us Kodiak. Try to ignore them.

[Trinnity]

Are you saying that she should not be held accountable for her actions No, but she was 15 when she made the worst mistake of her life. I don't even know much about the case and maybe I read they're maybe gonna execute her. I'm saying she was a child when she married a Dutch Muslim and went down the rabbit hole.

Hey that's ok you don't like the idea of Mercy in her case. You're not deciding her fate. I hope her fate isn't decided on emotions or mob justice.

[Dubler9]

She was always going to be tried in a UK court if allowed back. She was never coming back to freedom.

[Moonie]

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It's we're at loggerheads with the Russia right now, because I would love to see this creature transferred to their Siberian refugee/internment camps on humanitarian terms.
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[Jen]

I think I'll follow your lead @potlatch (https://thepoliticsforums.com/member.php?u=1644).....when the news kept me in turmoil all the time I quit watching....God has this.....This forum is getting to be much the same...I think I'm out for a while.My heart is broken for our nation and our world. It might help to talk about it, but not when even our friends are out of sorts. I understand but......... (and I'm not talking about you, @East of the Beast (https://thepoliticsforums.com/member.php?u=875) or @potlatch (https://thepoliticsforums.com/member.php?u=1644). )My statement was general in nature.

[Rutabaga]

something evil this way comes...

brace yourselves.

[Moonie]

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What did Mohammed say that Islamic females get in place of the boys' 72 virgins?

I'm not sure what Begum has to look forward to?
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[Dubler9]

This girl, if allowed back, as she should be, she will be under arrest and held at a top security police custody unit pending trial. Yet UNKNOWN quantity of illegal immigrants - many of whom are violent criminals, go on to rape and kill and rob - after entering the UK. The are given money / housing / and every possible help - denied to citizens born in UK who paid tax all their lives.
My close friends son was seriously maimed after a worksite truck hit him - he is paralysed - they have been told - when the money runs out he is out of the care-home.