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Neo
12-03-2020, 02:19 AM
The search for intelligent life may be over! A team of Oxford University researchers claims life on earth is probably a unique universal phenomena, and that it´s “extremely unlikely” that any other intelligent life exists anywhere else in the universe.


In 1959, the Italian physicist Enrico Fermi posed the Fermi paradox (https://www.popularmechanics.com/space/deep-space/a32749273/what-is-fermi-paradox/)as a way of questioning whether human beings were the only intelligent life in the universe. But today, according to a recent IPSOS (https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/americans-believe-in-ufos-aliens) poll, “Just under half of Americans believe UFOs exist and have visited the Earth,” and the idea that we are the only intelligent species in the universe is utterly outrageous to at least these 150 million people.
Throwing a cat among the pigeons, a team of researchers from Oxford University's Future of Humanity Institute have published a new paper (https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/ast.2019.2149) that all but says the words “we are all alone.” The chief argument is that took approximately 4.5 billion years for a series of complex evolutionary transitions to spark what would become intelligent life on earth. This, coupled with the widely spaced timing of key evolutionary transitions on earth, led the scientists to conclude that the expected transition times likely “exceed the lifetime of Earth,” suggesting the evolution of intelligent life is “exceptionally rare.
https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-science-space/intelligent-life-0014621

Authentic
12-03-2020, 02:26 AM
This would seem to validate intelligent design.

Northern Rivers
12-03-2020, 03:19 AM
We will be known as The Ancients. So far...we are it. :smiley20:

Neo
12-03-2020, 03:47 AM
There are billions of galaxies, trillions of worlds, maybe some form of intelligent life form is on a few in the universe, it doesn’t matter, we will never find them, even if we did they would be too far away to visit.

Physics Hunter
12-03-2020, 04:15 AM
Humans supposedly evolved from 3ft chimps in 1myrs...

Hell, we should be the pets, game, or slaves of aliens before we become a threat.

I won't hold my breath.

Neo
12-03-2020, 05:23 AM
Humans supposedly evolved from 3ft chimps in 1myrs...

Hell, we should be the pets, game, or slaves of aliens before we become a threat.

I won't hold my breath.

Our brain size makes us completely different from other forms of life on this planet, Neanderthals had bigger brains, with that a bigger head size, it is argued that human men had Neanderthal women bare children, human women could not birth Neanderthal babies because of the much larger head size of the babies, thats one of the theory why our nearest human cousin isn’t around to share nuclear missiles with.

Big Dummy
12-03-2020, 06:55 AM
All sorts of theories abound. One as good as the next. But unexplained phenomenon does happen. Many had visitations or abductions. All nonsense? Burning Bush talking to you? Rode a flying donkey?





President Donald Trump placed the United States into a state of war for the period of time existing from 20 May 2020 to 20 May 2021 (http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index3396.htm).
And in explaining to Security Council Members the issues involved, this transcript reveals General Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces (GRU (https://structure.mil.ru/structure/ministry_of_defence/details.htm?id=9711@egOrganization)) military intelligence analysts were citing information contained in a highly-classified “Of Special Importance (https://fas.org/irp/world/russia/class.htm)” file relating to the treaty signed between President Dwight Eisenhower and an extraterrestrial race (https://www.info-quest.org/documents/Eisenhowerufo.html)—a treaty the GRU now believes President Trump was attempting to repeal this past August [see our 16 September 2020 report “America Says It Doesn't Want War In Space After Trump Call To Aliens Sabotaged (http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index3335.htm)”], but resulted in the “unexplained (https://www.ucf.edu/news/broken-cable-damages-arecibo-observatory/)” damage inflicted on the massive alien hunting Arecibo Observatorytelescope located in Puerto Rico on the evening of 10 August—and yesterday, immediately following Communist China's Chang'e-5 mission probe touch down on the Moon (https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-55148998), the mysterious strange “minimoon”—officially dubbed 2020 SO—completed an extremely close flyby of our planet (https://www.rt.com/news/508303-unknown-space-object-earth-flyby/)—the result of which caused the complete and total destruction of the Arecibo Observatory telescope (https://www.nsf.gov/news/news_summ.jsp?cntn_id=301737).
Events that shatter the existing paradigm first established since both President Eisenhower and British Prime Minister Winston Churchill were telepathically contacted by this extraterrestrial race (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2100947/Eisenhower-secret-meetings-aliens-pentagon-consultant-claims.html)—but whose abandonment of our planet by these interdimensional aliens GRU military intelligence analysts credit President Trump for achieving—who since he was a child, was secretly educated by his uncle Dr. John G. Trump (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_G._Trump)—a Dr. Trumpthat was given during World War II all of the secret scientific documents belonging to one of humanity’s greatest minds Nicola Tesla (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44457471)—and whose most feared Tesla weapon President Trump knows about is called “The Bolts Of Thor (https://teslaresearch.jimdofree.com/death-ray/)”, that’s not only able to destroy complete armies and navies, it can penetrate into other dimensions—but to wield, would see President Trump needing beside him the most powerful military establishment in the world having a Space Force, as well as his being allied with a friendly alien race able to persue these malign extraterrestrials back to the dimension they came from—all of which more than explains the impossible feats President Trump has been able to accomplish—as well as its making clear why his enemies that aligned themselves with these demonic interdimensional extraterrestrials have become so deranged.

NuYawka
12-03-2020, 08:34 AM
ANY life "out there" would look intelligent compared to life here on Earth.

Neo
12-03-2020, 08:37 AM
ANY life "out there" would look intelligent compared to life here on Earth.
We have split the atom, built a machine that has caught the God particle, we have the technology to enable us to visit other worlds, surely we are the masters of the universe?

Authentic
12-03-2020, 08:39 AM
Higgs said that the God particle was overrated.

Kodiak
12-03-2020, 08:41 AM
We have split the atom, built a machine that has caught the God particle, we have the technology to enable us to visit other worlds, surely we are the masters of the universe?
We are specs of fly shit in the universe.

NuYawka
12-03-2020, 08:50 AM
We have split the atom, built a machine that has caught the God particle, we have the technology to enable us to visit other worlds, surely we are the masters of the universe?.https://media1.giphy.com/media/1gT0bx0JprXz9oNLsI/giphy.gif?cid=349c9dd7a0clb0o2e9lr5al9a3wd1xjc26kp gzikflnwhb4n&rid=giphy.gif

Neo
12-03-2020, 09:04 AM
Probably only 100 years and we will be doing this.

https://i.postimg.cc/9QR6RwZT/3-D127-ED0-D298-482-B-97-A2-62-CC1-D21-C281.gif (https://postimages.org/)

Physics Hunter
12-04-2020, 01:03 AM
Our brain size makes us completely different from other forms of life on this planet, Neanderthals had bigger brains, with that a bigger head size, it is argued that human men had Neanderthal women bare children, human women could not birth Neanderthal babies because of the much larger head size of the babies, thats one of the theory why our nearest human cousin isn’t around to share nuclear missiles with.

Dolphins are not that far away from us on the brain weight to body mass scale, but I agree that Man is unique.

But as to the big cranium birth thing, yes, human women are, on average, barely capable of birthing the largest human babies and the cranium is the biggest problem.
Of course this is presaged in Genesis 3:16, because Man ate of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil,
To the woman He said,
“I will greatly multiply
Your pain in childbirth,
In pain you will bring forth children...

And that there were giants in the land that interbred with humans (Gen 7), I was not surprised when Science "discovered" this.
And don't start me, I read the Bible first, but I read the science too. Memorizing shit is easy, Physics shit is hard.


This knowledge is ancient.

Physics Hunter
12-04-2020, 01:06 AM
Probably only 100 years and we will be doing this.

https://i.postimg.cc/9QR6RwZT/3-D127-ED0-D298-482-B-97-A2-62-CC1-D21-C281.gif (https://postimages.org/)

Describe the deep space propulsion system that could take us to Alpha Centauri in less than 20 years (speed of about .25C)...

I won't wait.

nonsqtr
12-04-2020, 01:18 AM
Opinions are like assholes. If I had a nickel for every time someone said something was impossible, I'd be filthy rich.

These fucking birdbrains simply don't get it. Life is a fundamental physical property of the universe. It will ALWAYS evolve, any place there's matter and light. (And maybe even some places there isn't).

Calculating the "probability of life evolving" is like phrenology. Yeah, let's measure the distance between your lobes. :geez:

The fucking rotten assholes can't even define what LIFE is, and they have the overwhelming arrogance to claim they can measure it - nay, not even measure, but PREDICT!

I have only one comment: :smiley_ROFLMAO:

nonsqtr
12-04-2020, 01:47 AM
New Equation Tallies Odds of Life Beginning | Space (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.space.com/amp/33374-odds-of-life-emerging-new-equation.html)

Neo
12-04-2020, 08:58 AM
Humans and chimps diverged from a common ancestor perhaps about 7 million years ago, and their hands now look very different. We have a relatively long thumb and shorter fingers, which allows us to touch our thumbs to any point along our fingers and thus easily grasp objects. Chimps, on the other hand, have much longer fingers and shorter thumbs, perfect for swinging in trees but much less handy for precision grasping. For decades the dominant view among researchers was that the common ancestor of chimps and humans had chimplike hands, and that the human hand changed in response to the pressures of natural selection to make us better toolmakers.
But recently some researchers have begun to challenge the idea that the human hand fundamentally changed its proportions after the evolutionary split with chimps. The earliest humanmade stone tools (http://news.sciencemag.org/africa/2015/04/world-s-oldest-stone-tools-discovered-kenya) are thought to date back 3.3 million years, but new evidence has emerged that some of the earliest members of the human line—such as the 4.4-million-year-old Ardipithecus ramidus (“Ardi”)—had hands that resembled those of modern humans rather than chimps (http://www.sciencemag.org/content/326/5960/1598.1.summary), even though it did not make tools. And back in 2010, a team led by paleoanthropologist Sergio Almécija, now at George Washington University in Washington, D.C., began arguing that even earlier human relatives, dating to 6 million years ago—very soon after the human-chimp evolutionary split—already had humanlike hands as well (http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0011727). This even included the ability to press the thumb against the fingers with considerable force, a key aspect of precision gripping.


The furs that early humans wore were stitched together, thumb and finger coordination meant we survived in colder weather.
Making stone tools, Knapping flints, all these technological achievements enabled us to build and keep building until we split the atom.

BooBoo
12-04-2020, 09:05 AM
There IS Intelligent Live Out There and the Bums are Smart Enough to Stay Away from Earth and it's Primitive Races...!!!

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fjoeartistwriter.files.wordpress.c om%2F2009%2F10%2Fmarvin-the-martian.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

Could bee he's a Demo...?!?

Captain Kirk!
12-04-2020, 09:07 AM
Humans supposedly evolved from 3ft chimps in 1myrs...

Hell, we should be the pets, game, or slaves of aliens before we become a threat.

I won't hold my breath.
I wonder why chimps aren't still turning into people?

BooBoo
12-04-2020, 09:09 AM
I wonder why chimps aren't still turning into people?


They Evolved Mentally and Decide They are Better Off the way They are...!!!

Captain Kirk!
12-04-2020, 09:11 AM
A lot of us are very arrogant it seems. We make a lot of assumptions to support our beliefs. But, I wonder if these "experts" have considered that there may be other reasons that if their are beings out there they haven't answered our attempts to talk to them by radio. Maybe they don't use radio. Ya think? Some other intelligent life that has evolved 600 light years from us might do things different? That they didn't have Enrico Fermi but they did have Psychic Sam? That we are totally alone in the galaxy is just as frightening as if we are not alone. Maybe more.

BooBoo
12-04-2020, 09:31 AM
Think about it... Are We Really Worth Contacting...?!? Sure Earth is a Beautiful Planet, with a Warming Sun and Clouds with Rain to Water Her, but, But, BUTT, those Critters Scurrying about down there... What the heck are they...?!?

Captain Kirk!
12-04-2020, 09:33 AM
Think about it... Are We Really Worth Contacting...?!? Sure Earth is a Beautiful Planet, with a Warming Sun and Clouds with Rain to Water Her, but, But, BUTT, those Critters Scurrying about down there... What the heck are they...?!?

https://i.ibb.co/98sQPKD/aliens3.jpg

Neo
12-04-2020, 09:58 AM
A lot of us are very arrogant it seems. We make a lot of assumptions to support our beliefs. But, I wonder if these "experts" have considered that there may be other reasons that if their are beings out there they haven't answered our attempts to talk to them by radio. Maybe they don't use radio. Ya think? Some other intelligent life that has evolved 600 light years from us might do things different? That they didn't have Enrico Fermi but they did have Psychic Sam? That we are totally alone in the galaxy is just as frightening as if we are not alone. Maybe more.

As radio signals leave earth, they propagate out in a wave form. Just like dropping a stone in a lake, the waves diffuse or “spread out” over distance thanks to the exponentially larger area they must encompass. The area can be calculated by multiplying length times width which is why we measure it in square units – square centimeters, square miles, etc. This means that the further away from the source, the more square units of area a signal has to ‘illuminate’.https://thepoliticsforums.com/data:image/svg+xml;charset=utf-8,<svg height=&quot;153px&quot; width=&quot;225px&quot; xmlns=&quot;<a href=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg&quot; target=_blank>http://www.w3.org/2000/svg</a> version=&quot;1.1&quot;/>https://zidbits-com.cdn.ampproject.org/i/s/zidbits.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/inverse-square-law.png
Another way to think of it, is that the strength of a radio signal will be only 1/4 as great once you are twice the distance from the source. At ten times the distance, the strength of the signal would only be one hundredth as great.
Because of this inverse square law, all of our terrestrial radio signals become indistinguishable from background noise at around a few light-years from earth. For a civilization only a couple hundred light-years away, trying to listen to our broadcasts would be like trying to detect the small ripple from a pebble dropped in the pacific ocean off the coast of California – from Japan.

Physics Hunter
12-05-2020, 01:12 AM
I wonder why chimps aren't still turning into people?
Kind of a corollary to my point, if we can go from trees to the moon in 3-4 million years, there should be incredible jumps in human capability with some regularity, and now that mortality rates before reproduction are a fraction of what they were in ancient times, all those advances should be moving forward with turbo speed.

Ain't happening.

nonsqtr
12-05-2020, 02:21 AM
I wonder why chimps aren't still turning into people?

Um... they are?

https://www.theawl.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/0TSueEDgEpQP0ziVt.jpg

Neo
12-05-2020, 04:43 AM
Kind of a corollary to my point, if we can go from trees to the moon in 3-4 million years, there should be incredible jumps in human capability with some regularity, and now that mortality rates before reproduction are a fraction of what they were in ancient times, all those advances should be moving forward with turbo speed.

Ain't happening.

Rubbish! In the 1920s Rocket research started, it is 100 years, not even a snap of the fingers relatively speaking, look how far we have come, man made object sent flying out of our solar system.
We have just heard the Chinese have built a computer that is so fast it would take the super computers we have 2 billion years to calculate what it calculated is few minutes.
Given our giant leaps in technology it wouldn’t be much of a gamble to place a bet we invent some system to propel space craft at speeds approaching light speed.

Hillofbeans
12-05-2020, 05:18 AM
As huge as the universe is it is highly unlikely there is no intelligent life out there, not sure we would want to encounter it but I think it is out there

Neo
12-05-2020, 06:09 AM
As huge as the universe is it is highly unlikely there is no intelligent life out there, not sure we would want to encounter it but I think it is out there

I agree with you, space is vast, the universe has trillions of galaxies, there must be billions of worlds with life forms, millions with intelligent life.
But! Space is so vast travelling even at light speed we will never visit them, space is the last frontier we will never conquer.

NuYawka
12-05-2020, 08:12 AM
We have just heard the Chinese have built a computer that is so fast it would take the super computers we have 2 billion years to calculate what it calculated is few minutes.

I bet Wal-Mart sells it.

nonsqtr
12-05-2020, 09:45 AM
I bet Wal-Mart sells it.

You can build one at home. All it takes is 2400 precisely aligned lasers.

Neo
12-05-2020, 10:13 AM
I bet Wal-Mart sells it.
Our Walmart is called ASDA....but Walmart has sold the chain now I believe?

Neo
12-05-2020, 10:14 AM
You can build one at home. All it takes is 2400 precisely aligned lasers.
How precisely are we talking about?

Physics Hunter
12-06-2020, 01:42 AM
Rubbish! In the 1920s Rocket research started, it is 100 years, not even a snap of the fingers relatively speaking, look how far we have come, man made object sent flying out of our solar system.
We have just heard the Chinese have built a computer that is so fast it would take the super computers we have 2 billion years to calculate what it calculated is few minutes.
Given our giant leaps in technology it wouldn’t be much of a gamble to place a bet we invent some system to propel space craft at speeds approaching light speed.

See post 15, and note that once we went to the moon, then VGER, then some rovers to Mars, we ran out of rocket advances. It is called Physics. Without a human written algorithm based on Physics, that supercomputer is like a Lamborghini being used as a room heater.

I had hoped that you might be interesting.

Neo
12-06-2020, 03:59 AM
See post 15, and note that once we went to the moon, then VGER, then some rovers to Mars, we ran out of rocket advances. It is called Physics. Without a human written algorithm based on Physics, that supercomputer is like a Lamborghini being used as a room heater.[QUOTE]


What you saw was a lack of funds to NASA the interest in going to space was lost, America had beaten the USSR in the space race.
What we have now is a renewal of interest, more funding, private enterprise, because as you know there is a lot of money in space for countries like the U.K. to build satellites and space equipment.

Elon Musk is a prime example, he has ensured his company will be the prime mover in technology that invents and operates sub light speed rocketry spacecraft.

Who would of believed we now have rockets that can go up into space and land on a boat in the ocean in the vertical, it’s like something out of a comic I read as a boy.

UKSmartypants
12-06-2020, 11:05 AM
The history of space exploration is following exactly the same pattern as exploration has throughtout tiemand across the world.

All such explorations int onew lands starts with a trickle of intrepid individuals. eventually a large public org gets involved and throws soem money at it creates a colony, harvests some resources., Then its all fogotten and no one goes back for a hundred years. The business gets intersted and the explotation of the new resource sbegins, with bigger better colonies and bigger better expeditiosn and supply lines.

This is roughly the pattern that has happened time and time agian.


The first post o nthis thread is of the type ive torn apart several times on here. If a bunch pf distinguished men declare soming impossoble, they almost certaily will be proved wrong withi na few years. Ive given dozens of examples in the past. The idea we arethe only form of life in a universe of at least 400 trillion trillion planets i na time scale of 13 nillion years is utterly absurd. The universe is teeming with life, but its also very very large and existed a long long time. Mammalian species generally only live 1-10 million years, which is the blink of an eye. To bump into another intelligent species you have to exist in the same million year time slot and within communicable distance in a universe 30 billion parsecs across. Life is plentiful, its just a lot rarer to bump into it. I suspect we have only been contacted so far by no more than 4 other alien species (cos we all know they have recovered UFOs and dead aliens in Area 51, as do the russians and chinese. Even the Nazis recovered a crashed UFO in the Black Forest in 1935.).

NuYawka
12-06-2020, 12:50 PM
How precisely are we talking about?lol

NuYawka
12-06-2020, 12:52 PM
You can build one at home. All it takes is 2400 precisely aligned lasers.See, this is exactly the reason I'm not into physics. I thought it would take 2338 haphazardly-aligned lasers.

Physics Hunter
12-06-2020, 10:55 PM
[QUOTE=Physics Hunter;2640453]See post 15, and note that once we went to the moon, then VGER, then some rovers to Mars, we ran out of rocket advances. It is called Physics. Without a human written algorithm based on Physics, that supercomputer is like a Lamborghini being used as a room heater.

What you saw was a lack of funds to NASA the interest in going to space was lost, America had beaten the USSR in the space race.
What we have now is a renewal of interest, more funding, private enterprise, because as you know there is a lot of money in space for countries like the U.K. to build satellites and space equipment.

Not that impressive, cross a rocket with a segue, micro RLGs. Didn't have those when I was a kid.