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    Quote Originally Posted by Matalese View Post
    How can that be? California has a 132 billion dollar debt and more people in california are on welfare that work. So how is obamacare sustainable? I don't get it? I think California is another Detroit. It's just a matter of time.




    http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com...people-on.html



    for that matter how can it work in any of the states shown on the map that have more people on welfare than are working?
    Funny thing about that map, it does not give any data and nowhere does it offer any sources. The map itself only has "Death Spiral" on it. This could be a map for some infectious disease for all you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thedarkdaimon View Post
    Funny thing about that map, it does not give any data and nowhere does it offer any sources. The map itself only has "Death Spiral" on it. This could be a map for some infectious disease for all you know.


    Well except for the title of "Economic Policy Journal" I guess you could make that flying leap.

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    AHHHH! Nc did not jump on the Obamacare wagon!

    We have more than a 20% increase in out state general fund and share the honor of having; no, being only one of nine states with good credit ratings

    Tell me again how this progressive tax and overspend works?

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    It's be fun to watch the stampede of liberals away from California in the near future. They'll cry crocodile tears and insist we bail them out but they'll be shocked, shocked mind you, at the mess the Republicans caused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedarkdaimon View Post
    Care to back this up with some sources?
    http://literacyprojectfoundation.org...ty/statistics/

    57% of California students cannot read. Look at those statistics. You cannot have an educated people with this kind of literacy rate.

    We import many of our teachers. Mostly from mexico. Yes, they can bring their entire families here too. It's okay, they are teaching from text books supplied by mexico.

    http://articles.latimes.com/1993-08-...chool-district


    Don't leave China out. They are sending teachers too.
    http://press.collegeboard.org/releas...nts-us-schools

    These might be very good teachers in their native languages, they might be very good teachers for foreign languages. They aren't doing that. They might speak English poorly, they read it not at all.


    One of the factors that make California a poor place to do business is the lack of an educated work force. We not only have an inhospitable business environment, we lack a workforce that can read the warning labels on the punch press!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matalese View Post
    Well except for the title of "Economic Policy Journal" I guess you could make that flying leap.
    Except it is not a journal, it's a blog. And the map is not even really from there, they linked it from... wait for it... another blog. None of them explain who made the map, who compiled the data, and where the data came from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katzndogz View Post
    http://literacyprojectfoundation.org...ty/statistics/

    57% of California students cannot read. Look at those statistics. You cannot have an educated people with this kind of literacy rate.
    Actually, your link says the 57% of California students couldn't pass the California Standards Test in English. That doesn't mean they can't read.

    [QUOTE=Katzndogz;174268]We import many of our teachers. Mostly from mexico. Yes, they can bring their entire families here too. It's okay, they are teaching from text books supplied by mexico.

    Hmm... here is what it says in the first paragraph of the above article:

    In an unprecedented exchange, the Mexican government has donated 40,000 new Spanish textbooks and is sending 20 bilingual teachers this fall to the Los Angeles Unified School District to aid students who speak little or no English.
    So they are getting teachers from Mexico to teach Spanish speaking children in America. I'm surprised you missed that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Katzndogz View Post
    Don't leave China out. They are sending teachers too.

    http://press.collegeboard.org/releases/2012/113-new-chinese-guest-teachers-arrive-assignments-us-schools


    These might be very good teachers in their native languages, they might be very good teachers for foreign languages. They aren't doing that. They might speak English poorly, they read it not at all.
    Again, from the above article.

    The program places visiting teachers from China at schools in the U.S. for one to three years, in order to jump-start or expand school Chinese language and culture programs.
    I guess they are teaching foreign languages after all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Katzndogz View Post
    One of the factors that make California a poor place to do business is the lack of an educated work force. We not only have an inhospitable business environment, we lack a workforce that can read the warning labels on the punch press!
    Actually, I partially agree with you on this. There IS a very educated workforce in California. When it comes to the percentage of adults over 25 who have Bachelor degrees, California ranks at 14 compared to other states, so while we're not at the top, we are most definitely not at the bottom. However, it is clustered around Silicon Valley. The rest of California is suffering. You see, while all your other arguments are bullshit, what you should have been concentrating on is the fact that California has one of the lowest literacy rates in the nation. Some of this is due to the high immigrant population, but a lot of it is due to the terrible education system. If you think this is due to the liberals, then you are totally ignoring the fact that Massachusetts, a very liberal state, ranks near the top of nation for literacy.
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    Cali libs are now spreading their poison in Texas and Colorado……..it's Zombie Apocalypse….the walking dead
    With every mistake we must surely be learning....

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    As you see from thedarkdaimon, we teach foreign speaking children in their own language rather than English thereby keeping them permanently in the underclass. Chinese parents I have some respect for. They go out of their way to make sure their children are high achievers. Mexicans are intent on increasing the number of welfare recipients and education interferes.

    California has a very poor educational system for two reasons. One California wants it that way. Two, the worse off the educational system is, the more money the state gets. Every success reduces next year's budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katzndogz View Post
    As you see from thedarkdaimon, we teach foreign speaking children in their own language rather than English thereby keeping them permanently in the underclass. Chinese parents I have some respect for. They go out of their way to make sure their children are high achievers. Mexicans are intent on increasing the number of welfare recipients and education interferes.

    California has a very poor educational system for two reasons. One California wants it that way. Two, the worse off the educational system is, the more money the state gets. Every success reduces next year's budget.


    This is very puzzling because to become a US citizen one must speak and read English. Yes?

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