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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginger View Post
    Are you nutz?
    I'm assuming you're addressing the post immediately above yours and your post is rhetorical.

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    I recall hearing a congresswoman complaining that some people in her district were so poor they couldn't afford cable television. I felt like falling on the floor and crying. When my wife demanded a vacation in Hawaii I explained I couldn't afford it. "Charles and Beatrice are going to Hawaii and he doesn't earn any more than you do." "Then they can't afford it either." "Yes, they can, they're going on their credit cards." Oh, there's a plan.

    An elderly couple I know were complaining because they had to give their daughter $60,000 to bail out their spending debt. "But, it's not there fault. You can't get by today without borrowing money." Well, yes, you can. When my kids were growing up they had a few fancy vacations with their grandparents but we vacationed walking in the mountains. We slept outside, watched the animals, were exhausted, and have some great memories. And, we could afford it. At the same time, people we knew were borrowing money to vacation in Disney World when it was new. I've never bought a new car but neither of my wives would consider buying a used car or even a cheap one.

    It's crazy. We need to teach in grammar school, again, that income minus spending equals your economic health. People need to understand the politicians are wrong and you can't spend your way to prosperity with consumer goods. It infuriates me when liberals call welfare programs "investments". Creating a new leisure class is a luxury.

    I wish it didn't have to crash and force us to be responsible but it looks like it might take that. President Trump has done some good things but the spending bill certainly wasn't one of them. Neither was his request for his "stimulus package" that's even larger than Obama's. And, his desire to keep healthcare under the federal government isn't what those who voted for him wanted. VA Healthcare for all isn't the dream.

    Venezuela is showing the Democrats the way. As the country is destroyed the rulers get absolute power. That's the liberal dream.

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    Venezuela has a long string of military dictators and a huge disparity in income. The leader's clique was quite wealthy while everyone else was very poor. This mess didn't start with Chavez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sooda View Post
    Venezuela has a long string of military dictators and a huge disparity in income. The leader's clique was quite wealthy while everyone else was very poor. This mess didn't start with Chavez.
    Liberals are always innocent. Venezuela was a prosperous country with a growing middle class until Obama's friend seized power.

    Income disparity is no problem. The problem is no adequate bottom income. If everyone was working and earning and made enough to have a home, have food, put their kids through college then the fact that Oprah Winfrey had $2 billion wouldn't matter. The politics of jealous only get played so far.

    I remember a group of police officers whining and comparing their pay with doctors. What idiocy. I remember talking to a young man about a future that didn't involve prison. I asked if he had ever had a dream. He said he'd wanted to be a doctor. I said, "We can work on that. For starters, you have to finish high school." He shook his head and said, "There's always a catch."

    Yes, there is always a catch, Sooda. Sadly, instead of helping people out of poverty we put our energy and our money into keeping them poor. It's called caring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolwalker View Post
    No duh...under those damn democrats we have had no choice but to borrow more as everything went thru the ceiling. Trump is doing his damnedest to pull us out of this rut!
    Of course there is an alternative to borrowing. It's called controlling spending. That's something liberals don't grasp. A friend of mine whines constantly about her electric bill. I point out she has four televisions but she says it's rare that more than two are on at once. She always complains about her Comcast bill but Comcast has her cable, telephone, cell phone, and internet access. Some of those are monopolies in her area.

    A couple I know were moaning about their daughters consumer debt and they said, as you did, that you simply can't live without going into debt. "Didn't your daughter and her husband vacation in Tahiti last year?"

    "Oh, you don't think our daughter deserves a vacation?" No one "deserves" a vacation they can't afford. No one "deserves" a car they can't pay for. No one "deserves" that house or that boat or that bracelet.

    My sister has a cousin, that I don't claim, who whines that's she's in debt because of medical expenses. Her medical expenses are far less than her casino expenses but we're all supposed to pretend that isn't the case.

    So, people choose to be in debt and not save. I'm not answering the phone because it will be some idiot telling me I have to help these people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginger View Post
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    Don't know about nutz, but I'm thinking she drank a lake full of spirits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrickt View Post
    Liberals are always innocent. Venezuela was a prosperous country with a growing middle class until Obama's friend seized power.

    Income disparity is no problem. The problem is no adequate bottom income. If everyone was working and earning and made enough to have a home, have food, put their kids through college then the fact that Oprah Winfrey had $2 billion wouldn't matter. The politics of jealous only get played so far.

    I remember a group of police officers whining and comparing their pay with doctors. What idiocy. I remember talking to a young man about a future that didn't involve prison. I asked if he had ever had a dream. He said he'd wanted to be a doctor. I said, "We can work on that. For starters, you have to finish high school." He shook his head and said, "There's always a catch."

    Yes, there is always a catch, Sooda. Sadly, instead of helping people out of poverty we put our energy and our money into keeping them poor. It's called caring.
    Don't forget US policy is to destroy the Venezuelan. I are you sure Venezuela problems aren't cause by the US?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobertLafollet View Post
    Don't forget US policy is to destroy the Venezuelan. I are you sure Venezuela problems aren't cause by the US?
    Yes, I'm sure. Can you find a successful country run by communists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrickt View Post
    Liberals are always innocent. Venezuela was a prosperous country with a growing middle class until Obama's friend seized power.

    Income disparity is no problem. The problem is no adequate bottom income. If everyone was working and earning and made enough to have a home, have food, put their kids through college then the fact that Oprah Winfrey had $2 billion wouldn't matter. The politics of jealous only get played so far.

    I remember a group of police officers whining and comparing their pay with doctors. What idiocy. I remember talking to a young man about a future that didn't involve prison. I asked if he had ever had a dream. He said he'd wanted to be a doctor. I said, "We can work on that. For starters, you have to finish high school." He shook his head and said, "There's always a catch."

    Yes, there is always a catch, Sooda. Sadly, instead of helping people out of poverty we put our energy and our money into keeping them poor. It's called caring.
    Nope.. VZ should have been prosperous as they have been pumping oil for 85 years, but all their leadership was former military.. dictators with US approval... and all the wealth of the country was concentrated on the dictator's inner circle.. Very much like Iran during the Shah years. VZ never invested in the people.. mimicking the folly of the Spanish Empire.

    I notice you tosse3d in Oprah Winfrey and medical school.. Why don't you read some history of VZ instead?

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