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    The Pearl Harbor Conspiracy Theory Revisited

    Upon hearing the news, British Prime Minister Winston Churchill immediately appreciated the long-term significance of Pearl Harbor. That night, he wrote, he “slept the sleep of the saved and thankful,” thinking that “we had won the war” and “England would live.”


    Pearl Harbor: The Shocking Loss That Led to a Great Victory
    Andrew B. Wilson
    December 7, 2017, 12:05 am

    Pearl Harbor: The Shocking Loss That Led to a Great Victory | The American Spectator

    Pearl Harbor Day prompted my personal interpretation of events and nothing more. The Pearl Harbor Conspiracy Theory must be examined with the politics and events that led to America’s entry into the war in Europe.

    1. The American public wanted no part of the war in Europe. FDR, spurred on by Churchill, was determined to get the U.S. into that war which began in 1939. Churchill’s agenda was to keep Germany from becoming a world power; thereby, threatening the British Empire and its interests. The Empire was already in serious trouble at the time; especially in India where the Raj was under attack by independence-minded Indians like Gandhi (1869 - 1948). There was also a strong faction inside India who wanted to enter the war on Germany’s side.

    2. Japan was Germany’s ally. The biggest single mistake Hitler made was in declaring war on the United States not long after Pearl Harbor. I believe that both Germany and Japan were operating under the delusion that the U.S. could not fight a two ocean war.

    3. Japan attacked the United States, yet 90% of this country’s war effort was directed towards the European War and saving Communism in the Soviet Union. Suspicious at the very least. One would think that FDR would have wanted to squash Japan out of existence as quickly as possible by putting all available resources into the Pacific War. Instead, he chose to concentrate on Europe. The Pacific War dragged on for four years as a result when it could have been brought to successful conclusion in one year.

    4. Had Hitler not declared war FDR would have been forced to concentrate the war effort on Japan. Hitler’s miscalculation was compounded here. After Japan had been beaten, the American public would still have been against helping Communism survive in the Soviet Union.

    Americans could see no good reason for entering the war in Europe. Polls taken in the pre-WWII era showed that 80 percent of the American people wanted no part of a European war. As late as June 23, 1941, then-Senator Truman remarked:


    If we see that Germany is winning we ought to help Russia, and if Russia is winning we ought to help Germany, and that way let them kill as many as possible. Harry Truman

    Senator Harry S. Truman was a vehement opponent of America getting involved in a second European War. The man who would later become president understood the American people because he was one of them. To hear today’s liberals talk about WWII, young Americans have been conned into believing that Americans could not wait to go to war in Europe.

    NOTE: Fascism and Communism are equally abhorrent political systems to most Americans. Before the world learned of the Holocaust, it would not have mattered one iota which side won in Europe. Had the Holocaust never happened it would be easier today to show Fascism and Communism as both sides of the same coin. Because the Holocaust did happen, Fascism is the more evil of the two, but not by much. American Socialists/Communists claim sainthood under false pretenses to this day because of the Holocaust.

    5. The British broke the Japanese Naval Code before Dec. 1941. FDR’s defenders claim that he was not told that the Japanese Naval Code had been broken prior to Dec. 7, 1941. For anyone to believe that FDR did not know the attack was imminent ignores the kind of president FDR was. Nothing went on in his Administrations that he did not know about. That man was the most manipulative, devious, president who ever lived in the White House. Can anyone realistically believe that breaking the Japanese Naval Code was kept from him? Defending such a position boggles the mind considering the political environment of the time.

    6. There were no aircraft carriers in Pearl Harbor on the day of the attack. The warships that were there were obsolete for the most part. FDR did not want to give the Japanese Navy that big of an edge by putting this country’s aircraft carriers in harm’s way.

    7. The Japanese ambassador to Washington was kept waiting until after the attack began. Hence, Dec. 7 became a day of infamy rather than a declaration of war before the attack started.

    The one component of the Pearl Harbor Conspiracy Theory that is never, or seldom, speculated about is the suicide of James V. Forrestal.

    Forrestal’s brief biography, taken from an encyclopedia, is interesting in relation to the attack on Pearl Harbor:


    “Forrestal, James Vincent (1892-1949), American banker and government official, born in Beacon, New York, and educated at Dartmouth College and Princeton University. In 1916 he joined the New York City investment firm of Dillon, Reed, and Company. He became president of the firm in 1938. Two years later Forrestal was appointed undersecretary of the navy and served in that post until 1944, when he became secretary of the navy. He was one of the chief planners of the unification of the three armed services in a single executive department of the federal government. In 1947, when unification was effected by congressional enactment, Forrestal became the first secretary of defense of the U.S. He resigned the post because of ill health early in 1949.”

    The next quote was taken from a chronology of events in 1949 and is not connected to Forrestal’s biography.


    “The U.S. Defense Department is created August 10 by a retitling of the War Department under terms of the National Security Act of 1947. The first secretary of defense James V. Forrestal resigned in March with symptoms of nervous exhaustion and depression, entered Bethesda Naval Hospital, and jumped from a window there May 22, dying at age 57.”

    Note that Forrestal’s promotion to secretary of the navy in 1944 shows that he was one of FDR’s fair-haired boys. FDR did not move anyone up the ladder he did not trust completely. If there is any truth to the Pearl Harbor Conspiracy Theory, Forrestal, as under secretary of the navy at the time of the Pearl Harbor attack, must have known about it even if he disagreed with FDR’s ultimate decision. If he did not know about it in 1941, he may have acquired top secret information after he became secretary of the navy in ‘44, or after he became secretary of defense in 1947, that allowed him to put it all together.

    Here are two purely speculative psycho-babble questions that if ever answered would either prove that FDR knew, or would clear up the Forrestal suicide in relation to Pearl Harbor.

    1. In light of his loyalty to FDR, and subsequently FDR’s Pearl Harbor decision, was Forrestal’s depression brought on when he finally came to understand where FDR’s Socialists/Communists intended to take the country? (The U.N. was a fact of life in 1949.)


    2. Was Forrestal a man of such conscience he had to commit suicide because he could no longer live with the secret of Pearl Harbor?

    Nor could Forrestal blow the whistle and harm the country. An internal conflict of that magnitude would break the strongest man of conscience.

    One other possibility is that New Deal Socialists/Communists murdered Forrestal because he was on the verge of telling all. Anything that would destroy FDR’s ongoing deification process would also tarnish Eleanor Roosevelt; i.e., question the then-infant United Nations. Socialists would not let that happen then or now.

    Here is an addition to the Pearl Harbor Conspiracy Theory for anyone who is interested:

    Churchill’s hand can be seen in the RMS Lusitania, a British luxury liner owned by Cunard Line flying the British flag.



    Years after WWI ended it came out that the Lusitania’s cargo holds contained war materials. In retrospect, Germany had every right to sink her.

    It was the same Winston Churchill who later manipulated FDR with so much success leading up to Pearl Harbor.

    Churchill was first lord of the admiralty from 1914 to 1918. The Lusitania Conspiracy Theory implies that Churchill had a hand in the certainty that the German Navy would sink the Lusitania. The US entered the war on England’s side in 1917. In short: Churchill was a professional conspirator when it suited England’s purpose compared to FDR.

    The following excerpt was taken from an encyclopedia:


    “Lusitania (vessel), British steamship, torpedoed in 1915 without warning during World War I by a German submarine off the coast of Ireland. The ship sank quickly, and 1198 people died, including 128 Americans. The Germans asserted that the ship was carrying arms for the Allies (which later research proved to be true). Anti-German sentiments increased in the United States after the disaster. Germany refused to accept responsibility for the tragedy but agreed not to sink passenger liners without warning.”

    Germany was fighting a war against England and was justified in sinking the Lusitania once they learned that the ship was carrying arms in its cargo holds. Germany’s military at the time was controlled by Junkers, an honorable class of military men. There was a not a chance they would have ordered the Lusitania torpedoed without knowing what she was carrying. You can bet that Churchill, and probably President Wilson, made sure that the German High Command found out in time for the Lusitania to be intercepted.

    The Lusitania was torpedoed on May 7, 1915. Congress declared war on April 6, 1917; a full two years after the Lusitania. In those two years merchant ships supplying Great Britain with materials of war were torpedoed. It was sinking those merchant ships that gave Wilson his declaration of war. That tells me that it took a full two years for the Lusitania Conspiracy to come to fruition.

    Had the public known the truth in 1915, anti-German, pro-British, sentiments would have been impossible to sustain long enough for Wilson to involve the American people in England’s war against Germany. No television and damn few radios to administer booster shots back then.

    Parenthetically, look at how the Left concocted excuses for the 3,000 murders done to Americans on 9-11-2001. The murders that occurred on 9-11 cannot be justified by any sane person, yet the Blame America First crowd went out of its way to see that no anti-Muslim sentiments got started in the same way that anti-German sentiment was encouraged after the Lusitania.

    Can you imagine hundreds of thousands of Germans flooding into the US after the Lusitania was torpedoed? An event that claimed relatively few Americans lives in the course of a European war.

    The Lusitania cries “Conspiracy” from her watery grave; whereas, the only conspiracy connected to the events of 9-11-2001 is the one that was hatched by Islamist extremists. However, there is one important similarity between 9-11 and the Lusitania.

    The Germans were not supposed to protect themselves during a war by stopping weapons from reaching their enemy without first presenting proof of British skullduggery to the world. The similarity to 9-11-2001 being that Americans are not supposed to defend themselves against Islam without enough proof to satisfy the International Community if the Socialists running the Democrat party are to be obeyed. Proof is waived if the U.S. acts multilaterally with the U.N.’s blessings.
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    I am pretty sure Carl Vinson would not have thrown in with the Pearl Harbor conspirators if they did exist:



    Admiral William Leahy (left) stands before Rep. Carl Vinson on Capitol Hill in 1938 (Photo: Harris & Ewing/Library of Congress)


    His monumental contributions to American security are largely unknown to Americans today.

    Seventy-six years ago on Dec. 7, 1941, the Imperial Japanese fleet surprise-attacked Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, the home port of the U.S. Pacific Fleet.

    Japanese carrier planes killed 2,403 Americans. They sunk or submerged 19 ships (including eight battleships destroyed or disabled) and damaged or destroyed more than 300 planes.

    In an amazing feat of seamanship, the huge Japanese carrier fleet had steamed nearly 3,500 miles in midwinter high seas. The armada had refueled more than 20 major ships while observing radio silence before arriving undetected about 220 miles from Hawaii.

    The surprise attack started the Pacific War. It was followed a few hours later by a Japanese assault on the Philippines.

    More importantly, Pearl Harbor ushered in a new phase of World War II, as the conflict expanded to the Pacific. It became truly a global war when, four days later, Germany and Italy declared war on the United States.

    The Japanese fleet had missed the three absent American carriers of the Pacific Fleet. Nonetheless, Japanese admirals were certain that the United States was so crippled after the attack that it would not be able to go on the offensive against the Japanese Pacific empire for years, if at all. Surely the wounded Americans would sue for peace, or at least concentrate on Europe and keep out of the Japanese-held Pacific.

    That was a fatal miscalculation.

    The Japanese warlords had known little of the tireless efforts of one Democratic congressman from Georgia, Carl Vinson.

    For nearly a decade before Pearl Harbor, Vinson had schemed and politicked in brilliant fashion to ensure that America was building a two-ocean navy larger than all the major navies of the world combined.

    Vinson had assumed in the mid-1930s that fascist Japan and Germany posed existential threats to the United States. For America to survive, he saw that America would need mastery of the seas to transport its armies across the Pacific and Atlantic.

    From 1934 to 1940, Vinson pushed through Congress four major naval appropriations bills. The result was that the U.S. Pacific Fleet, which Japan thought it had almost destroyed in December 1941, was already slated to be replaced by a far larger and updated armada.

    A little more than seven months after Pearl Harbor, the USS Essex — the finest carrier in the world — was launched. Essex was the first of 24 such state-of-the-art fleet carriers of its class to be built during the war.

    Vinson’s various pre-war naval-construction bills also ensured the launching of hundreds of modern battleships, cruisers, destroyers, and submarines. As bombs fell at Pearl Harbor, ships of the new American fleet were soon to be deployed, under construction, or already authorized.

    Vinson’s foresight would save thousands of American lives in the Atlantic and Pacific. American naval power quickly allowed the U.S. to fight a two-front war against Japan, Germany, and Italy.

    Vinson, a rural Georgian, was an unlikely advocate of global naval supremacy.

    Before World War II, the battleship was still thought to be queen of the seas. Yet Vinson emphasized aircraft carriers over battleships. That decision would result in absolute American naval supremacy of the oceans within two years of the Pearl Harbor attack.

    Stranger still, Vinson had fought for naval expansion in the middle of the Great Depression, at a time when the U.S. government was already deeply in debt and poor Americans had no desire for large peacetime defense spending.

    Vinson lived in the heart of impoverished rural Georgia, not on the East or West coasts, the traditional homes of U.S. warships. He was elected for 26 straight congressional terms. For 50 years, Vinson insisted on military preparedness, especially through naval power, to ensure deterrence and thereby keep the peace.

    Vinson’s remarkable congressional career began in 1914, before the American entry into World War I. He championed a strong Navy during the Depression, World War II, the Korean War, the start of the Vietnam War, and the Cold War before retiring in 1965 at the age of 81.

    Prior to Vinson, the U.S. Navy was basically a small coastal patrol force fueled by coal. But as the chairman of House Naval Affairs Committee and later the House Armed Services Committee, Vinson ensured that American sea power — eventually led by behemoth nuclear-powered aircraft carriers (including the USS Carl Vinson) — would win wars and keep the peace through its global reach.

    Vinson would live 16 years beyond retirement, dying at the age of 97 in 1981.

    Today, most Americans do not recognize Vinson’s contributions to American security. But the real strategic story of the December 7 attack on Pearl Harbor was that Japan foolishly bombed a mostly obsolete fleet, soon guaranteeing terrible revenge from its far greater and more modern replacement armada — thanks largely to the global visions of a rural Georgia congressman.


    Pearl Harbor and the Legacy of Carl Vinson
    by Victor Davis Hanson
    December 7, 2017 12:00 AM

    Carl Vinson & Pearl Harbor: An Intertwined Legacy | National Review

    I do want to comment on one item in Hanson’s piece:


    Prior to Vinson, the U.S. Navy was basically a small coastal patrol force fueled by coal.

    The Teapot Dome scandal in the 1920s surely had an influence on a politically astute man like Carl Vinson:


    Teapot Dome: For Emergency Use Only

    The oil reserves at Teapot Dome and in California had been set aside at the request of the U.S. Navy, which had been converting coal-fueled ships into oil-powered vessels since 1909.

    As more ships were converted to run on oil, Navy officials wanted to ensure there would be enough oil at hand in the event of a war or other emergency. Under President William Taft, Congress began to set aside federal lands believed to contain oil as emergency reserves.

    http://www.history.com/topics/teapot-dome-scandal
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