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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobbe View Post
    in fact he said there was no evidence of more than one shooter.
    Which runs counter to the evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobbe View Post
    Because you have not kept up with the information released.
    Have you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daily Bread View Post
    Nobody ,with the wealth and outside interest that this guy had in our society can cast this kind of hidden shadow in civilized society nowadays . To me - there's a lot more to this.
    I'm certain there's more. But I'm doubtful that we'll ever know it.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Oskar View Post
    Timeline has changed - Campos was encountered before the shooting, and now he has disappeared.
    I still want to know why the 911 call that came in was a guard shot in the neck. Big difference between the leg and neck. I am not letting that one go. I know what was called in.

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    The only thing that is abundantly clear is that the Vegas massacre makes no sense, and given the veil of secrecy that surrounds it, it's almost a certainty something else was going on.

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    Las Vegas may have been an FBI screw up, but Jesus Christ made Seattle under protest.

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    I've given up on waiting for the truth on this one.
    What it says to me is that the pattern is established. There will be another, and bigger. I nervously await.

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    I have explained what happened in the shooting from Mandalay Bay in Vegas on other boards. Perhaps not here because I rarely come here as on here it is mostly preaching to the choir thus my services do more good elsewhere. But anyhow, I stopped in tonight to see how things were going and I came across this thread. Now to appreciate this theory and truly understand it one must have some experience with Vegas or at least a little knowledge of gambling. It is really not all that complicated.
    There was a conspiracy and it can be proved by simple logic. Yet the conspiracy is far from what those who see it as a conspiracy think happened.
    Anyone who has lived in Vegas understands the media and the police dept. there is controlled by the Big Boys--the owners of the hotel/casinoes. Some people are so far behind times they actually believe the mafia still runs vegas.....they were chased out long ago but replaced by an even worse group...Corporations...morally depraved Corporations. Corporations who have no problem destroying lives to enhance their profit margins and their profit margins are huge.
    Most locals long for the days when the Italian mafia ran vegas and they ran it for many years. The locals were treated much better by the Italian mob. When you went into the casinoes back in the day the pit bosses would take care of you if you were a good customer. They remembered you and to keep you coming back you would get comps relatively easy which means your food and room was gratis. Now everything is controlled by the computer and the computer is not humane. As in: hard to get comps unless you are a big high roller. One other thing, when the eyeties ran vegas only the people that needed killing got killed. Now crime is rampant and it really is no longer safe to walk in Vegas. The California thugs have flooded into vegas with their big bankrolls of drug money and vegas--especially the night clubs cater to them. In a nutshell vegas has changed big time and not for the good.
    The shooter in Vegas was a well known high roller and he practically lived in various Vegas hotels though he owned several houses. His family (a sorry lot) of whom I will not go into detail about--- were convinced he was a hugely sucessful gambler. He would bring his family into Vegas and put them up at the expense of the Hotel, so they believed he must be a huge success there in order to be able to do that. What they and most do not know is that the most expensive thing in Vegas is a comp. You have to lose lots of money to get those comps now. The shooter never had a problem getting a comp for himself or his family. This tells me all i need to know about this guy....a big time loser. More evidence of that is he played the slots...no skill level there whatsoever all of that play is controlled by the computer. He played video poker, long recognized as the most addictive form of slot playing. He was a degenerate gambler with a terrible gambling addiction...not to mention the sleeping pills he was addicted to. He had a deal with a local doctor there that gave him all the pills he wanted and those pills were known to cause aggresive behavior and violence in some.
    Yet by hook or crook the msm totally missed the real story of what motivated the shooter. Not suprising. The truth is something that they seem to find very elusive. If you remember 'what was the motive' was the big, big question right after the shooting but the search for the motive was given up rather quickly. The media being suckered or paid off by the politicos in Vegas never pursued the real story.
    People in Las Vegas know all too well how many gamblers kill themselves over losing money they cannot afford to lose...sometimes all they have. Suprisingly it does not take that big of a loss for some people to kill themselves. If they lose enough money to force them to change their lifestyle, that is the trigger. Most of these suicides you never hear of...the media does not talk about it...it is the dirty side of gambling. The other side of the coin which conflicts with the 'entertainment' approach taken by the city and its public relations campaigns. Families are destroyed and have been ever since Vegas was there. That being one reason for it being located out in the middle of the mojave desert. This isolation in the early days protected it rather well from the moral elements in our society. But Vegas became more and more popular till the point where for a few years it was touted as a family destination as in the Entertainment Capital of the World. Even various church groups would hold their conventions there. Very,very few talked about or even knew the dark side of Vegas. This is where the shooter comes in. No one knows how much money he lost but it had to have been a huge number as he gambled millions of dollars for a long period of time. Impossible not to lose if you do that. The science of mathematics determines that. The longer you gamble and the more you gamble the more you will lose. The casinoes hire highly qualified mathmaticians to make sure all the games there work in their favor.
    Yet the shooter due to having a lot of money was able to continue his charade of being a successful gambler for several years. The Casioes never released how much he lost and the media did not apply pressure to the casinoes to do so....though they should have. The Sheriff did come out and say he lost a signifcant amount of money. But the media never latched onto that as the key to the motive of the psychopathic shooter. The Sheriff went on to say he did not know if it was enough money to cause the shooter to go suicidal and again no one in the media chose to pursue that angle.
    Why not is the big question? Now of course the corporations did not want the media to dig into the dark side of vegas. All the heartaches, the busted families, the ruined lives, the suicides and the drug addictions associated with gambling. That would make Vegas look bad and the result would be a financial disaster. Especially if folks started putting pressure on their elected represenatives to conduct hearings on the gambling in Vegas and elsewhere now as it has spread out across the country. Such a investigation might motivate the government to crackdown on the gambling in vegas as in not allow people to gamble so much as to destroy their lives.
    So it was a simple path that the shooter took. He got hooked on gambling and having a big ego he got gratification from playing the role of a influential and 'successful gambler' a oxymoron if there ever was one.
    Thus when it all came crashing down--when he lost enough that he knew his lifestyle would be forced to change as in...he could no longer keep up the charade....could no longer gamble away millions of dollars--his world collapsed. It was a very sad and lonely world. Gamblers lead very lonely lives for the most part. They go through tremendous bouts of depression only alleviated by the occasional win...but a very temporary alleviation as the losses are going to be much bigger than the wins. For a guy like the shooter it was all about the adrenaline rushes he got...whether losing or winning. This is what some do not understand. Losing money will give a gambler a bigger adrenaline rush than winning. The adrenaline rush is what really addicts them. They get hooked on that...a terrible addiction. This craving for excitement. That is all they live for. All they care about. Similar to getting to addicted to opiates but much worse. Though the drugs also play a role in the wasted lives of gamblers. A huge role in the lives of many of them. The shooter was no exception.
    So it really is no mystery at all. The shooter became suicidal because of the money he had lost....and you can bet it was a huge sum of money. Thus the Casinoes have never released the amount though they keep meticulous records. The only difference between the shooter and all the other gamblers who became suicidal was that this guy decided to exact revenge. He knew full well that what he was doing would have a huge negative impact on the Casinoes. Probably not as much as he had hoped for because his motive was never recognized by the media. That is the real conspiracy. How Vegas stopped the media from investigating the impact his gambling had. How his gambling losses resulted in the deaths of so many people.
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    Phew . In short - you don't like gambling .

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    Underlining...must mean it's more true.

    Since ALL CAPS doesn't work with this software.

    If you did some paragraph breaks, it would be more readable.

    If you tried for concise points, more people would wade in to try.

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