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    He Better Start Worrying!

    He is putting himself in position to sign a piece of Democrat legislation. And how in hell do the very people who weakened and betrayed this country for decades make “. . . Americans better and stronger. . .”?


    “The biggest message is we are a lot less focused on what makes Congress happy and [instead on] what makes Americans better and stronger,” said White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders. “He’s going to continue working with whoever is interested in moving the ball forward to help the American people.”


    Trump not worried if deal with Dems upsets GOP, says White House
    By S.A. Miller
    Friday, September 8, 2017

    Trump not worried if deal with Democrats upsets GOP, says White House - Washington Times

    It would be a smart move if Trump is doing a rope-a-dope so he can veto anything Democrats send him. Alas, he is neither that smart nor that courageous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flanders View Post
    He is putting himself in position to sign a piece of Democrat legislation. And how in hell do the very people who weakened and betrayed this decades make “. . . Americans better and stronger. . .”?


    “The biggest message is we are a lot less focused on what makes Congress happy and [instead on] what makes Americans better and stronger,” said White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders. “He’s going to continue working with whoever is interested in moving the ball forward to help the American people.”


    Trump not worried if deal with Dems upsets GOP, says White House
    By S.A. Miller
    Friday, September 8, 2017

    Trump not worried if deal with Democrats upsets GOP, says White House - Washington Times

    It would be a smart move if Trump is doing a rope-a-dope so he can veto anything Democrats send him. Alas, he is neither that smart nor that courageous.
    I'm glad he pissed the GOP off. They've been do nothing piece of shits for 8 months now. You may say Trump is "neither that smart nor that courageous", but the GOP is doing nothing to win support from voters next November. If congress gets handed back to the dems in a tantrum vote, I think it was a brilliant move on his part to build a few bridges now, he's probably going to have to keep working with them after next fall.
    .........as I listen to the sirens wailing....lights are flashing red, ringing in my head, I can hear them getting louder, LOUDER. There's a cause for alarm.

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    This is a wait and see situation for me. Nothing has been signed, sealed and delivered yet. I'm still keeping faith President Trump knows what he is doing with this. Time will tell

    I like that :rope a dope saying. It seems Mr. Trump knows how to do that very well. Just look how he plays the media all the time. So this could be another one of those. as I said, time will tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flanders View Post
    He is putting himself in position to sign a piece of Democrat legislation. And how in hell do the very people who weakened and betrayed this country for decades make “. . . Americans better and stronger. . .”?


    “The biggest message is we are a lot less focused on what makes Congress happy and [instead on] what makes Americans better and stronger,” said White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders. “He’s going to continue working with whoever is interested in moving the ball forward to help the American people.”


    Trump not worried if deal with Dems upsets GOP, says White House
    By S.A. Miller
    Friday, September 8, 2017

    Trump not worried if deal with Democrats upsets GOP, says White House - Washington Times

    It would be a smart move if Trump is doing a rope-a-dope so he can veto anything Democrats send him. Alas, he is neither that smart nor that courageous.
    Trump has already sign Democrat legislation helping Vets that the Democrats could not get Obama to sign. It took a Republican president to pass a bunch of legislation to help Vets.

    If the Republicans are that stupid than the Republicans can pay the price.

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    I'm not saying that he is doing the wrong thing or that Republicans don't deserve this rebuke, but is there anyone who still thinks the Republicans will not also vote overwhelmingly for his impeachment if they are given the chance by Mueller? Hell, they'll have dead senators voting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankenvoter View Post
    the GOP is doing nothing to win support from voters next November.
    To Frankenvoter: I believe Establishment Republicans are not looking for support. They are gambling that voters will not go back to Obama/Clinton Democrats in 2018. I see it as a losing bet. Conservative will never vote for a Democrat, but they will stay home as they did in 2008 and 2012. Speaking for myself the only difference between Democrats and Establishment Republicans is speed. Democrats will kill conservatism as rapidly as possible, while Republicans will do it by inches as they have doing since the LBJ years.


    Quote Originally Posted by memesofine View Post
    This is a wait and see situation for me. Nothing has been signed, sealed and delivered yet. I'm still keeping faith President Trump knows what he is doing with this. Time will tell
    I like that :rope a dope saying. It seems Mr. Trump knows how to do that very well. Just look how he plays the media all the time. So this could be another one of those. as I said, time will tell.
    To memesofine: I hope you are right. I am much too skeptical of novice Trump working with Democrat snakes who cannot be trusted. Remember what they did to RR on the first amnesty, and he had vast experience in government. Simply put: Never give Democrats an even break. They will screw you every time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quark View Post
    Trump has already sign Democrat legislation helping Vets that the Democrats could not get Obama to sign. It took a Republican president to pass a bunch of legislation to help Vets.

    If the Republicans are that stupid than the Republicans can pay the price.
    To Quark: I think Democrats went along on that one because they feared CONSERVATIVES would get all of the credit for helping veterans.


    The legislation, which passed the House unanimously, provides funding for veterans who seek treatment from a private doctor in certain cases. It also allows the Veterans Affairs department to lease 28 new facilities around the country, in an attempt to expand access to government-provided care. That makes it a compromise in the larger debate between conservative and liberal proponents of VA reform.


    Trump signs bill helping vets get access to private medical care
    by Joel Gehrke | Aug 12, 2017, 3:45 PM

    Trump signs bill helping vets get access to private medical care

    Note that Democrat bureaucrats opposed the bill:


    Public service employee unions opposed the legislation. American Federation of Government Employees National President J. David Cox Sr. accused the lawmakers of subjecting VA employees to a "witch hunt."


    Senate passes VA reform bill
    by Sean Higgins | Jun 6, 2017, 5:54 PM

    Senate passes VA reform bill

    Democrats will take every opportunity to pass, or at least influence, bipartisan legislation when a Socialist/Communist foundation tenet is at stake. The rubber hits the road for Trump when the choice is sign or veto. I fear he will take the bad to get the good.


    It is much more important to kill bad bills than to pass good ones. Calvin Coolidge



    Quote Originally Posted by SharetheHedge View Post
    is there anyone who still thinks the Republicans will not also vote overwhelmingly for his impeachment if they are given the chance by Mueller? Hell, they'll have dead senators voting.

    To SharetheHedge: You got that right. Trump will always be an outsider to the parasite class. EVERYBODY in the swamp is working to see him gone anyway they can do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankenvoter View Post
    I'm glad he pissed the GOP off. They've been do nothing piece of shits for 8 months now. You may say Trump is "neither that smart nor that courageous", but the GOP is doing nothing to win support from voters next November. If congress gets handed back to the dems in a tantrum vote, I think it was a brilliant move on his part to build a few bridges now, he's probably going to have to keep working with them after next fall.
    I think Trump is doing this to prevent the Rodents from taking the House back.

    He's going to shake the tree and let the voting Americans see who their real RINOs are in their districts, and he's going to do it in time for the 2018 primaries.

    He's already declared war on that asshole Flake, and hopefully McStain will die soon enough to get another real conservative in the Senate next year.

    We MUST trust the guy.

    He's the ONLY chance we have. We cannot fail him, because failing him will cut OUR throats, not his.

    The alternative is that he's fucking us.

    But that is what's going to happen to us if we don't support him.

    So our ONLY choice is to support OUR president. None of the alternatives work out better.
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    Trump has been President for 205 days and Ruth Bader Ginzberg hasn't had the decency to die. What's up with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sled Dog View Post
    We MUST trust the guy.

    To Sled Dog: I cannot get behind Establishment Republicans, but I will hang in there with Trump as much as I can.

    I have to admit he makes me very nervous, especially with the way he is handling illegal aliens. The only thing he had to do was rescind DACA as he promised during the campaign. Instead of rescinding DACA he gave it to Democrats and RINOs in Congress.

    Incidentally, every poll I have seen shows that at least 90 percent of Americans oppose the Dream Act:


    "Going into an election year, the last thing you want to see is a galvanized Latino voter community as well as people that are not Latino but are generally supportive of the DREAM Act."

    Start the clock in 1965:



    Lyndon Johnson. accompanied by Bobby and Teddy Kennedy, signing the 1965 Immigration Act.


    Ted Kennedy’s 1965 Immigration Act: The War On America Turns 50
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    and you will see that not one bipartisan bill after 1965 ever included protecting this country’s sovereignty.


    The DREAM Act is a bipartisan bill first introduced in 2001 that would include protections for immigrants brought into the U.S. illegally as children as long as they meet certain requirements.

    Democrats are threatening to attach the DREAM Act to any must-pass legislation this fall in the wake of President Trump's decision Tuesday to eliminate the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, which shielded young undocumented immigrants from deportation.


    Dem predicts GOP will pass DREAM Act before midterms
    By The Hill Staff - 09/06/17 01:26 PM EDT

    Dem predicts GOP will pass DREAM Act before midterms | TheHill

    Today’s open-borders, sanctuary cities, United Nations refugees, importing contagious diseases, etc. grew out of the 1965 Immigration Act, yet not a word about repealing Ted Kennedy’s “legacy.” I am not blaming Trump for the disaster, but he could put repeal on the table for starters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SharetheHedge View Post
    I'm not saying that he is doing the wrong thing or that Republicans don't deserve this rebuke, but is there anyone who still thinks the Republicans will not also vote overwhelmingly for his impeachment if they are given the chance by Mueller? Hell, they'll have dead senators voting.
    If the Pubbists (or is it Pubists) try to help impeach Trump, his base will likely revolt. I know I will.
    And, if Mueller had anything, Trump would already have received notice of Impeachment.
    We need to take our country back, NOW. These traitors need to be run out of town, on a rail.

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    This is picking your battles folks, and disaster relief is not the right fight, nor the debt ceiling until we get taxes done.

    Lets not forget that "President" Trump has two hostile sides in this Congress!
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